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Old 04-27-2009, 05:31 PM   #1
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Hey everyone.. New to this site. I'll probably be using this quite often.

I'm looking for people to help me with my website. It is a tutorial hosting site... but it only hosts original tutorials. these tutorials are mainly on design but branch out to programming, website building, operating systems, networking modding etc.

I need people to moderate the forums, help with tutorials, help with the layout, get traffic, manage it etc. I just really want a community of people like this but obviously it will have a slight topic difference.

Any ideas or anyone interested in being apart of it?

I would also like to find some people to start programming with. It doesn't really matter to me what it is.. application, game or whatever. I want to learn more about the programming field.

Anyone interested in this?

My site URL is http://theguruhouse.com

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So you want to put up only ORIGINAL tutorials... Yet you use Joomla to make/manage your site... Kind of contradictive don't ya think?
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So you want to put up only ORIGINAL tutorials... Yet you use Joomla to make/manage your site... Kind of contradictive don't ya think?
Not at all...
What does Joomla! have to do with content? Or the tutorials? Nothing!
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Lmao... If you want originality, why not do originality... Though yes anyone can build a site with a CMS, and yes anyone can type out a tutorial... But honestly, coming from doing something similar to what your doing, if I was going to ask for only original content, then I would have the website just as original... Just as it is... I built my entire cms, by my hands, my entire site was done by my hands... And though what is up as of right now, may not look that great, at least I did it, at least it really is original...
To be honest with ya, when I first looked at your site, I was thinking that I would help you with some content, then I looked a bit deeper, and saw that you didn't actually design it, then I figured screw it, if I am going to put my originality online, I want it to me online with originality... Just as it will be...
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Burn420 I have had enough of your beating every body up because they didn't code their site from scratch. You are a dyed in the wool jerk when it comes to that.
Not every one knows how to code from scratch. Most assuredly that includes you. Your web page if you can call it that is a POS.
So clean up your own yard before you go criticizing your neibours...

And mods ya'll can ban me if you like. But how long are you going to let this fool get away with this?
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Burn420 I have had enough of your beating every body up because they didn't code their site from scratch. You are a dyed in the wool jerk when it comes to that.
Not every one knows how to code from scratch. Most assuredly that includes you. Your web page if you can call it that is a POS.
So clean up your own yard before you go criticizing your neibours...


And mods ya'll can ban me if you like. But how long are you going to let this fool get away with this?
I couldnt agree more.
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Burn420 I have had enough of your beating every body up because they didn't code their site from scratch. You are a dyed in the wool jerk when it comes to that.
Not every one knows how to code from scratch. Most assuredly that includes you. Your web page if you can call it that is a POS.
So clean up your own yard before you go criticizing your neibours...

And mods ya'll can ban me if you like. But how long are you going to let this fool get away with this?
Absolute agreement here. Why should he spend the time building a custom cms when there are highly engineered open source ones out there already. It's a complete false economy. Plus if i was taking advice on content management system building and design you'd be the last guy i asked, and before you pop back up to tell us all it's a working progress i wonder what gives you the high ground here? The OP'er is most likely not a guy wanting to learn code and database structure but instead he wants to offer some of his spare time up to contribute to the IT community. Contributing helpful work is a concept you should probably look into burn. Whilst you're at it "i-can-learn-a-language-in-10-days man" why not looking into a code of respect for other people. P***k.

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Lmao... If you want originality, why not do originality...
Yet again.. What does a CMS have to do with providing people with tutorials and useful information.

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Though yes anyone can build a site with a CMS, and yes anyone can type out a tutorial...
No.. NOT anyone can type out a tutorial. You have to actually know what your talking about. So another "fail" on your part.


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But honestly, coming from doing something similar to what your doing, if I was going to ask for only original content, then I would have the website just as original... Just as it is... I built my entire cms, by my hands, my entire site was done by my hands...
ONCE AGAIN. The content of my site has nothing to do with the layout. I have also built sites from scratch. I DO know HTML and PHP.

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And though what is up as of right now, may not look that great, at least I did it, at least it really is original...
You're right. It doesn't look that great. In fact, It hurts my eyes and is very unorganized.


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To be honest with ya, when I first looked at your site, I was thinking that I would help you with some content, then I looked a bit deeper, and saw that you didn't actually design it, then I figured screw it, if I am going to put my originality online, I want it to me online with originality... Just as it will be...
You should look into using an open source CMS. (They are free and available to anyone. You can even edit the code! XD XD XD XD) But seriously, the people who made these CMSs are very generous and did a very good job. There is no reason that they should be bashed (same for the users) for creating/using them.
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Right on mate. Glad to hear you not wasting time listening to our resident cms bitch. I'm sure i could help you out with content but not for a while, gcse exams for the next month and a half plus i have a lot of commitments elsewhere atm. I'll get back to you with am update when i get it.
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Right on mate. Glad to hear you not wasting time listening to our resident cms bitch. I'm sure i could help you out with content but not for a while, gcse exams for the next month and a half plus i have a lot of commitments elsewhere atm. I'll get back to you with am update when i get it.
I'm going to be busy myself. Next week is CISCO finals.. then I get to take the ICDN1 certification test.. oh what fun. :P
I as well have commitments..

(my 360 just came in while typing this! Whoo! XD)

Sorry.. very excited.

Thanks a lot though for willing to help out! I much appreciate it Good luck on your exams.
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Seti - I was not trying to "beat" anyone up... I was just explaining my thoughts on the matter. And btw thank you, I a glad to know my work is a POS, at least I have the balls to try it my self...

tom - How many more times must I say it ... and I quote "I have been in the game for about 10 years" "I could learn a typical language in a bout a month"... So why do you say I can learn a language in 10 days when I have never once said that...

Guru - My apologies if I came off as if I was trying to "bash" you, the makers of opensource cms, or any other user... That was not the point I was trying to get at...

My point is, if you are going to use open source material, then what is wrong with someone submitting open source material just the same? I just think it is a little contradictive that you will use pre-made work to make the site, yet not allow anyone to submit pre-made work just the same...

For instance, here you don't put in the time to make the site yourself, yet if I want to put something up for the world to see, and hopefully benefit from... I must put the time into typing it all out? I can't just upload the tutorial I have had for some time that was written for the soul purpose of expanding knowledge just because I was not the one who wrote it?

My point was, if you are going to set some sort of expectation for your users, I personally think it is wise to at least meet that same level of expectation.
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Seti - I was not trying to "beat" anyone up... I was just explaining my thoughts on the matter. And btw thank you, I a glad to know my work is a POS, at least I have the balls to try it my self...

tom - How many more times must I say it ... and I quote "I have been in the game for about 10 years" "I could learn a typical language in a bout a month"... So why do you say I can learn a language in 10 days when I have never once said that...

Guru - My apologies if I came off as if I was trying to "bash" you, the makers of opensource cms, or any other user... That was not the point I was trying to get at...

My point is, if you are going to use open source material, then what is wrong with someone submitting open source material just the same? I just think it is a little contradictive that you will use pre-made work to make the site, yet not allow anyone to submit pre-made work just the same...

For instance, here you don't put in the time to make the site yourself, yet if I want to put something up for the world to see, and hopefully benefit from... I must put the time into typing it all out? I can't just upload the tutorial I have had for some time that was written for the soul purpose of expanding knowledge just because I was not the one who wrote it?

My point was, if you are going to set some sort of expectation for your users, I personally think it is wise to at least meet that same level of expectation.
1st - If the tutorials aren't original.. and they are ANYWHERE else on the internet, it is copyright.

2nd - There is nothing more annoying than find the same tutorial over and over again on the internet when trying to learn something new.

3rd - I don't care if a user has already made the tutorial or not... as long as it's not anywhere else on the internet i'm ok with them submitting it.

For the LAST TIME - Just because the layout etc is pre-made does NOT mean that it contradicts original content.
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Well submitting open source material would not be against copyright laws... If it is open source, it is open source... Just so long as you are not trying to make a monetary gain off of the work you did not do...

Though true it may be a bit annoying to find the same tutorial over and over... But is it any different to see the same tutorial just in different words? or a different tittle?

Just curios, why does it matter so much that the content is not all over the internet, but yet the design is?

My point was, if you are going to set some sort of expectation for your users, I personally think it is wise to at least meet that same level of expectation...
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Well submitting open source material would not be against copyright laws... If it is open source, it is open source... Just so long as you are not trying to make a monetary gain off of the work you did not do...

Though true it may be a bit annoying to find the same tutorial over and over... But is it any different to see the same tutorial just in different words? or a different tittle?

Just curios, why does it matter so much that the content is not all over the internet, but yet the design is?

My point was, if you are going to set some sort of expectation for your users, I personally think it is wise to at least meet that same level of expectation...
Does anyone else want to try to explain to this guy my intentions?

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Well submitting open source material would not be against copyright laws... If it is open source, it is open source... Just so long as you are not trying to make a monetary gain off of the work you did not do...
This isn't true. You can sell a peice of open-source software. Not a lot of it is sold but it can be. Most sites that have software like that have the option to buy or download.

Open source only means that you need to have the source code readily available to people. There is a lot that goes with some of the licenses, if you want to can google GLP and read more about it.

To the OP I think that you site has a nice look to it. I was doing a little looking at your forum. On your forums area, you have an Ubuntu banner in the Fedora section. I am happy that you have a linux banner period, but if you could make a Fedora one, or use the standard banner that would be great. That way people won't be confused.

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You are the only one who can explain your intentions... Yes I understand you want to help expand the whole knowledge base for people... Honestly I like that, I am doing all of this, as to get a better understanding from you. I wouldn't mind doing some tutorials... But as I have stated before, I am just not sure if I would be willing to just yet... So here I am trying to pick at your brain so I have a better understanding of exactly what your wanting to do...
So if you think I don't understand, you are wrong...

Why does it matter so much that the content is not all over the internet, but yet it doesn't matter if the design is?

I mean seriously, you haven't even used an excuse for that yet... I know why people use open source material... I know why you would want the content original... But I don't know from your actual aspect as to why... Which is why I have said everything I have as a question from the get go...

wmorri - I know what the GPL is... It is actually a test subject in school... When you publish something as OpenSource (or in any way give the okay to freely distribute the work), that work can be distributed to anyone without any copyright infringement coming against you. The only way you can have any kind of infringement case upon you, is if you try to make money soully off the work that was not done by you, or one of whom works for you... In which case you can then use the copyright laws, to protect anyone from unlawfully using the work you, or one whom works for you, have done...
Also Copyright laws do not only apply to someone who has registered with the copyright offices... Copyright laws, are in effect as soon as the work is started... With or without any kind of publishing... You don't even have to openly advocate that you are using the protection of the copyright laws... So long has you have a hard copy of the work, you can claim copyright protection...
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I think this may be what you're looking for as far as content.
Personal experiences.
What you needed.
Preparations.
Cost factors.
How you did it.
What problems you encountered along the way.
What you did to resolve them.
Performance after the fact.
Tuts by people that have had their hands on something and put it in their own words works far better than reading some dull white paper written by some twerp that has never had to do some any more complicated than make a pot of coffee.
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Seti - That is exactly what my big problem with using pre-made websites is all about... Especially when that person tries to act like they know all about web design, yet don't actually have any wisdom on the matter... (please don't think that was directed to any distinct individual cause it wasn't)
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This isn't true. You can sell a peice of open-source software. Not a lot of it is sold but it can be. Most sites that have software like that have the option to buy or download.

Open source only means that you need to have the source code readily available to people. There is a lot that goes with some of the licenses, if you want to can google GLP and read more about it.

To the OP I think that you site has a nice look to it. I was doing a little looking at your forum. On your forums area, you have an Ubuntu banner in the Fedora section. I am happy that you have a linux banner period, but if you could make a Fedora one, or use the standard banner that would be great. That way people won't be confused.

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Ah! Thanks a bunch! The banner at the top actually randomly rotates between 3 different ones no matter where you are on the site. XD

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I think this may be what you're looking for as far as content.
Personal experiences.
What you needed.
Preparations.
Cost factors.
How you did it.
What problems you encountered along the way.
What you did to resolve them.
Performance after the fact.
Tuts by people that have had their hands on something and put it in their own words works far better than reading some dull white paper written by some twerp that has never had to do some any more complicated than make a pot of coffee.
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You are the only one who can explain your intentions... Yes I understand you want to help expand the whole knowledge base for people... Honestly I like that, I am doing all of this, as to get a better understanding from you. I wouldn't mind doing some tutorials... But as I have stated before, I am just not sure if I would be willing to just yet... So here I am trying to pick at your brain so I have a better understanding of exactly what your wanting to do...
So if you think I don't understand, you are wrong...

Why does it matter so much that the content is not all over the internet, but yet it doesn't matter if the design is?

I mean seriously, you haven't even used an excuse for that yet... I know why people use open source material... I know why you would want the content original... But I don't know from your actual aspect as to why... Which is why I have said everything I have as a question from the get go...

wmorri - I know what the GPL is... It is actually a test subject in school... When you publish something as OpenSource (or in any way give the okay to freely distribute the work), that work can be distributed to anyone without any copyright infringement coming against you. The only way you can have any kind of infringement case upon you, is if you try to make money soully off the work that was not done by you, or one of whom works for you... In which case you can then use the copyright laws, to protect anyone from unlawfully using the work you, or one whom works for you, have done...
Also Copyright laws do not only apply to someone who has registered with the copyright offices... Copyright laws, are in effect as soon as the work is started... With or without any kind of publishing... You don't even have to openly advocate that you are using the protection of the copyright laws... So long has you have a hard copy of the work, you can claim copyright protection...
If you post ANYTHING on your site that is not under your copyright, your breaking the law. That is only part of the reason why I want original content. Unless of course, the other site permits it. Ex Joomla!, YouTube (you can use other peoples videos and even YouTubes bandwidth) ect.

Look here:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
http://boogiejack.com/copyband.html
http://mason.gmu.edu/~montecin/copyright-internet.htm




Oh! One more thing... <sarcasm> What do you think of this Forum!? I mean.. OMG! They're using vBulletin! How dare they! </sarcasm>
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Good show!

The reason the reg is off is I plan to close the doors on May 2nd. I will create an account for you and PM the details later. I have to go to work now. Back on in 45 mins.
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