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Old 11-10-2006, 07:41 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I just got done putting together a new system. Everything was going great, formatted the HD to NFTS and it rebooted to load windows. My system keeps restarting while installing windows. 1st time it just restarted, 2nd time it gave me a error log about dllpackts and signature not good, 3rd and 4th time it just restarted. Still trying to install, I think I'm getting further and further with each attempt.

I had a prior custom built computer and I'm using the same windows xp cd, service pack 1. The prior xp has been deleted to keep it legal...
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It's loading up the windows logo screen and it restarts the setup, but now it's directly shutting down after displaying insufficient system resources for API... I think that is the last part of it, it shows it so quickly.
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Old 11-10-2006, 09:04 PM   #3
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Ok, how exactly does windows xp oem work? My oem cd is from an earlier custom built abit mobo based computer. I now built a new abit mobo based computer and the OEM cd is giving me all kinds of errors in the setup.
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Is the CD clean? Sometimes when there are scratches/smudges, it will give you different types of errors. Try cleaning the CD with a lint free cloth. You mentioned that it referrenced the API- check in your BIOS and see if anything looks funny- all else fails, set it to defaults. You should be able to use the OEM disc to install XP on that machine, as long as you have a valid COA for the computer. I think your issue may be related to the BIOS though. See if there is a BIOS flash for that board, if setting it to factory defaults doesn't work.
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sounds like id you are having liecnce problems you cd might be pirated does it have the guine microsoft seal on it is the cd reflxive does it alter colors is you tilt it in the light
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sounds like id you are having liecnce problems you cd might be pirated does it have the guine microsoft seal on it is the cd reflxive does it alter colors is you tilt it in the light
if he had no problems wiht it on his previous system then i doubt it pirated. I'd ahve to agree with PCtechMike and say it could be bios and possibly even a RAM stick.
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Old 11-11-2006, 11:18 AM   #7
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CD is perfectly legit, its reflective and has product id on both sides. Could the ram still be bad even tho BIOS detects it? Since it's OEM, shouldn't a floppy be loaded first with the necessary DLLs and kernels?
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CD is perfectly legit, its reflective and has product id on both sides. Could the ram still be bad even tho BIOS detects it? Since it's OEM, shouldn't a floppy be loaded first with the necessary DLLs and kernels?
Nope, should work straight from the CD
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Old 11-11-2006, 11:45 AM   #9
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I'm gonna flash the bios and see how that goes... if that doesnt work i'm gonna play around with the memory dimms
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It's loading up the windows logo screen and it restarts the setup, but now it's directly shutting down after displaying insufficient system resources for API... I think that is the last part of it, it shows it so quickly.
Could possibly be this

When XP is first installed it tries to determine what type of BIOS is available on the computer. Newer systems have what is known as Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) capability. Unfortunately, XP doesn't always recognize a computer BIOS is ACPI capable and doesn't install the support for ACPI. Even more unfortunate is the fact that if ACPI support isn't determined at the initial install it's virtually impossible to correct this at a later time short of reinstalling XP over the top of the previous XP installation. To do so requires changing the Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL). The chances of successfully changing a HAL after XP has been installed is pretty close to zilch.

Once you drop the CD in the tray and fire up the computer to install XP, the first thing you'll see at the bottom of the screen is the option to press F6 if you need to install a SCSI or RAID controller. Don't press F6. Press F5 instead. This will take you to a separate menu of Hardware Abstraction Layer's where you can choose an appropriate HAL that supports ACPI. The choices will be:

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ACPI Multiprocessor PC
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ACPI Uniprocessor PC
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Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC
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Compaq SystemPro Multiprocessor or 100% Compatible PC
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MPS Uniprocessor PC
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MPS Multiprocessor PC
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Standard PC
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Standard PC with C-Step i486
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Other

In the majority of installations the 'Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC' HAL is the one you will want to use. A few cautions are also in order:

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Obtain and install the latest BIOS for your motherboard before you begin the XP installation.
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Equally as important as using the proper HAL on ACPI capable systems, is NOT using it on systems that are not ACPI compatible. The install may complete but the system will almost surely fail to start when it reboots.
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There are situations where it is definitely not desirable to use an ACPI HAL even if it is supported by the BIOS. This predominately applies to servers, but to ensure that an ACPI HAL will not be used or automatically detected and used, press F7 instead of F5 as discussed previously.

Considering the number of problems that users have with systems not shutting down completely I wonder why this feature is not prominently mentioned and documented. It could save many headaches, but now you know. A good piece of knowledge to have tucked away for your next XP install.

As a final note, to determine if your computer was detected as being ACPI enabled:

Right click My Computer then click Properties > Hardware > Device Manager.
Expand the entry called Computer.

If the entry is 'Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC' you're all set. If it says 'Standard PC' the computer BIOS was not detected as being ACPI capable.
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Old 11-11-2006, 12:34 PM   #11
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I hit f5 as mentioned the only options that came up were i 486 and other... I chose i486. Lets see how it goes.
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Alrighty. For anyone just joining this thread here is what I got. Look at my 1) sig for my comp aspects. Everything is running fine, BIOS detects everything like a charm (proc, mem, etc.). I put the windows xp home edition version 2002. It loads from cd and goes through the usual blue screen installation. I formatted through NFTS and it restarted. It loaded xp installation setup and began, it shortly restarted after that.

It restarted and actually began loading xp, after a short while I got an API error and it restarted. On restart it went further this time and I got to the CoA entry and time entry and after that it restarted. A few times of getting this far it immediately began restarting as soon as the xp installations setup begins again. I began getting different errors at this page, sometimes the blue screen of death, sometimes insufficient system resource but MOSTLY an API error.

I tried switching the mem around in the slots and I even tried different ram that I know is working. All leads to the same restarts. I've booted from cd to enter the xp initial blue screen installation and have reformatted over and over. EVERYTHING LEADS TO WINDOW RESTARTS when it begins to load xp after the initial harddrive blue screen setup.

Thanks to Raffaz keen eye I hit f5 on the blue screen to enter the API setup; however, I only have two options I486 or other. Not working.

Since I have a very new mobo could it be that the version 2002 is not working as it should? THE XP CD IS A LEGIT OEM.

I'm going to load the new bios when I get to work because I am using a laptop with no floppy drive. Is there somewhere I should go to get the correct API settings so I can use the other option?

Getting to my wits end
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Ok, I give up! I've switched out all cables imaginable. I even tried to load my old HD through an IDE but it wont load windows! ARGH. I made a floppy bios boot and it wont read it. I'm gonna get some professional help from a computer store.
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Ok, I give up! I've switched out all cables imaginable. I even tried to load my old HD through an IDE but it wont load windows! ARGH. I made a floppy bios boot and it wont read it. I'm gonna get some professional help from a computer store.
One more thing to try, have ya been in touch with ya mobo manufacturer to see if there are any known probs with the board?
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Take a look here to make sure its all compatable
http://www.abit.com.tw/test_report/F...y%20AN8%20SLI/
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BIOS update here, dont forget the BIOS loader aswell
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/...es=1&model=275

And heres detailed instructions on how to do it, take care with it tho
http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bioshelp.php
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Old 11-13-2006, 01:34 PM   #17
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Yea, I've got the bios update already. I played around some more in windows xp and I made a smaller 40g partition just for windows and it gave me the option of foratting it to fat32. Amazingly it let me back into the windows installation screen but I eventually got fatal errors...BUT! IT provided me with an error log. The first many erros were fffff 02 and they all started out D:\ blah blah blah. This leads me to believe it is actually a bad cd. The last error I received was specific code 2.

I'm off to the web to research these errors. So after 40'ish system restarts according to bios I think I've learned I have a bad cd. I hope all of those system cycles did not hurt the system.

Raffaz, as usual you rock. Thanks for all of your patience and time. I wish I could give you more rep
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