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Old 12-07-2006, 12:44 PM   #1
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Default Are we living in a time of exploration?

http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5252

I think within the next 20 years we will have plans to colonize mars, i'm sure of it. And then after we've hit mars we'll prob go out of the galaxy. And I bet I will hear of plans to leave this galaxy before my dieing day if not see them accomplished.

What do yall think?

I personnally feel that one day, some brilliant business man is going figure out how to make a killer in space weather it be importing some rare magical power source created from the dust or what be it, as soon as there is a praticial application to conolnizing space, it'll happen in 15 years, for where there is a will there is a way.
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Old 12-07-2006, 01:05 PM   #2
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i'm sure that scientists are seriously starting to consider that the our home planet is going through changes. either they put their heads together and figure a way to reverse the damage that has been done by means of better ways to use resources.

the weather is changing, climates are changing and we could really use some direction on what our future resources are going to come from. i really would like to see them find a way to extract the hydrogen from water safely and be able to use it to power stations where our electricity comes from.

if anyone has seen that movie Chain Reaction, you know what i'm talking about.i do believe that one day we will at least try to teraform mars, but i dought it will be in my lifetime. scientists are already seaching out worlds out there that just might be earth like. colonizing the solar system would be a cool task.
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Terraforming mars has been considered impossible because lack of magetic field.
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true, but the need to explore will always be there. if not mars...i am thinking more along the lines of maybe one of the moons of the planets, who knows.
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I think it would be a little sad that money was put into ways of exploiting other planets, rather than sorting out the mess we have made here.

There are many free sources of power, wind, wave, solar, um what #2 said etc. The trouble is, there is not enough money to be made out of them. Why do you think the majority of cars still use petrol? They are basically running on a technology from 100 years ago. Which the big companies find very profitable.
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Why do you think the majority of cars still use petrol? They are basically running on a technology from 100 years ago. Which the big companies find very profitable.
Yep, at least when one of the earlier hydrogen powered cars was made, an oil company or something bought the copyrights to it's designs, and never started to produce it. They have the money to do that, if you invented something like that and they tell you "hey, here is $2 000 000 can we have the copyrights" I'd definitely say yes sure you can. Though there are countries (like Brazil I think) where most cars run on biodiesel. Also sweden is quite advanced in this, there (if I remember correctly) about 20% of cars use stuff like biodiesel instead of normal petrol.

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Now to the original subject.

Within the next 20 years? I don't think so. During my lifetime, probably. The mission to build the outpost in moon will start in about 13 years, and is should be capable of supporting people for long perioids of time in 17 years. And they are going to start saving/spending money on this project in 2009. That's 11 years of nasas budget spent on this, now I bet going to build an outpost to mars will be at least 2x more expensive. Sure, if there REALLY is a need to do it the US government (or someone else) can dig up that kind of money fast.

And leave this galaxy, a power source won't be enough. The closest galaxy is so damn far away. Either teleportation/timetravel, or shrinking the space infront of the spacecraft and then again expanding it behind the spacecraft or then to find a stable wormhole, which still would mean that we need a very god damn fast spacecraft to get anywhere. Sure technology has come really far in the past 50 years, but I doubt we will be going anywhere out of our solarsystem in the next 100 years.
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According to Stephen Hawking, in order to ensure the survival of the human race we will have to colonize other planets either within our solar system or in others.

If you were to ask me, i would project that we will not be sending humans to other planets within even 50 years but I do believe that we will one day reach the technology to make it possible for intergalactic space travel. I don't think I will be around to see it.
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hahahaha as cool as this all sounds i think you guys been watching 2 much StarTreck. I mean dont get me wrong i am all up for the idea to go beyond and explore…etc but 50, 40, 30 years ago people thought the same thing, and belived that in about 50 years we will have flying cars and we will be living on the moon...etc and now after 50 years haz passed we are not even clouse.

yes one day we will have this things but i dought its going to happen anytime soon.
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I do. I was at my Great Grandmas house this sunday and she was telling me how her mother would tell her anything is impossible. Because the day before the news of the wright brothers plane hit Germany, her father (my great great great grandpa, told my great great grandma man will never fly)

The next day she learned that a plane had been inveted and it flew.

So intergalaic travel within the next lets say 60-70 years? Possible I believe we can do it if we try. Also we want a colony on mars within 18 years. Thats what NASA prejects. Maybe the next president will fund more money to NASA. I know i'd found at least 10 billiom more. Which is all honsety is chump change for America.
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i saw the Shuttle strapped to the back of a jumbo in '83/'84(?) fly over my school. i thought ''wow, this is it!!! man is going to travel now!!!''.
sadly, not much has happend since.
how can we really travel so far in 15 years time? i doubt it.

maybe if B.Gates decides space should be bought, maybe.....
or if the US Military decide to invade Mars for ''Rocks of Mass Desturction'' reasons? j/k

no, it's not going to happen for a VERY long time
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I think it would be a little sad that money was put into ways of exploiting other planets, rather than sorting out the mess we have made here.

There are many free sources of power, wind, wave, solar, um what #2 said etc. The trouble is, there is not enough money to be made out of them. Why do you think the majority of cars still use petrol? They are basically running on a technology from 100 years ago. Which the big companies find very profitable.
The problem with alternative energy sources is, either they are so inefficient, or people don't know how to use them correctly, or both. There was a lot of talk over solar energy, until they realized you need huge grids to produce a small amount of energy. Put it over grass and you've killed it. That = more CO2, which in case you didn't know, is considered a pollutant now. Let's get rid of all of it and kill the trees, that would be great.
As far as hydrogen energy is concenred, it's very expensive to extract from water as it uses a lot of electricity. And we get a lot of our power from burning coal, since people think nuclear energy will magically destroy the universe, although it is one of the cleanest sources besides hydroelectric dams. I don't think people would be too keen on tripling gas prices, either...
There was also a problem with the wind turbines. Apparently it kills a lot of birds each year that fly into them and some people had a huge problem with that, so some were shut down.
I remember when that was called natural selection.

And another thing. Don't you love it when a species is nearing extinction, so they take the few surviving animals, put them in captivity, and make it worse that it was before? I seem to remember a couple of instances when a few near-extinct animals died. That's completely backwards. I realize that some things must be done to protect the environment and animal life, stuff like that, but sometimes I think we go too far.
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Remember back to the future part II? they envisioned jackets that would dry them selves, cars that would fly, hover boards as opposed to skate boards, all sorts of weird crap.. yet here we are, 2006, and we still rely on pollutant methods to power our vehicles...
what stops us? man it's self.. man and it's greed.
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maybe on mars we could remake Total Recall??

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I do. I was at my Great Grandmas house this sunday and she was telling me how her mother would tell her anything is impossible. Because the day before the news of the wright brothers plane hit Germany, her father (my great great great grandpa, told my great great grandma man will never fly)

The next day she learned that a plane had been inveted and it flew.
thats a little different. According to what we know about physics there is nothing that would prevent flying. But according to what we know about physics an object can't go faster than the speed of light.(in a vacuum, without any other forces effecting us) Now even if we were to reach the speed of light, it wouldn't be enough to go to other galaxies.
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Nothing is impossible, speed of light travel possible yes it most certinally is, do we know how to do it, nope.

Didn't ensiten mention somthing along this anagloy.

Take a stick, image one end of the stick is one galaxy and the other is another galaxy. Its a very far distance, now bend the stick to where the two points touch each other, now is it so far?
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the amount of energy to take two points in the universe and bring them together in one place will take more energy than humanly possible. the ugly fact that very large company's do make profit off today's resources, it' a shame they only seem to care about the almighty dollar.

i'm not saying they won't evenually shift gears and start thinking about different ways to produce energy for very little or even free, but sooner or later push will come to shove and it might be too late by then. the focus of exploring will be up rooted by the way of wars.
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Didn't ensiten mention somthing along this anagloy.

Take a stick, image one end of the stick is one galaxy and the other is another galaxy. Its a very far distance, now bend the stick to where the two points touch each other, now is it so far?
that's true, it's called a wormhole. And it's possible, and I also think that they also occur naturally. (not sure about that) But as far as I know we haven't found a single one. And creating something like that, as mr mixx said would take unbelievable amount of energy.

And speed of light travel possible, maybe. But faster? Not according to Einstein or any other scientists. Though there are ways to move faster without actually moving any faster. But all that kind of things + the wormhole thing is so out of our current technologys reach.
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"It takes one brilliant man, to change the world"

A person at a speech once said that, I forgot who it was. But there is hope, nothing is impossible.
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