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Old 04-20-2007, 07:00 AM   #1
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Four Plymouth women who goaded toddlers into fighting and filmed it have been given 12-month suspended sentences.
The four admitted child cruelty charges before sentencing at Plymouth Crown Court on Friday.

During the case, seven minutes of video was shown. A boy wearing a nappy was called a "wimp" for not hitting a girl back after she struck him in the face.

The four women, all from the same family, are heard laughing as the toddlers are urged to keep on fighting.

The boy, aged two, is seen crying after being punched in the face by the three-year-old girl and is told by one of the four women in the room "not to be a wimp or a faggot" and to hit her back.

One of the women pleaded guilty to causing or procuring the children to be ill treated in a manner likely to cause unnecessary suffering or injury.

The other three pleaded guilty to jointly inciting the ill treatment of children.

Has the world suddenly gone mad this week or it is me? were just coming to terms with the shooting in Virginia then this breaks the news today.
How can some people be so cruel then get a suspended sentence have we gone soft now?
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That is just wrong, what the ... were they thinking? Tie them up to a lamppost and get a boxer to beat the shit out of them and tell them they are faggots. That is just undiscibable..
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If I am wrong correct me but I believe the video was on youtube for a while, this video was posted on our board a while back and I remember thinking who could make there kids do that. I have no sympathy for parents like that.
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they hosted it on youtube? what pigs.
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That is sick. What kind of parents force their children to fight. She should be in jail.
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That is sick. What kind of parents force their children to fight. She should be in jail.
I dont think it was the parents because it was the father that found the tape and reported it, Ive just got home from work so unless theres been some more development in the news then it was committed by 4 ladies all family members but I'm not sure if they where related to the children.
Steff i totally agree with what you said in your first post personally id lock them in a room then let them fight it out themselves.I also hope it was not them on you tube like you said because if it was that would be very sad.
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I can't see this justifiable in any way.
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god... just god... what is this world comming to? its sickening. those mothers don't deserve to raise thier childeren. those childeren deserve better. They deserve to live a life that isn't full of peer pressure from what should be a parental unit.

Doing any kind of harm to a kid, weather, its physical, mental, or sexual is the worst crime to me. Kids are innocent things that shouldn't have to go through that kind of trauma. It may be radical, too radical for some of you, but i think that should be grounds for excution. not the normal "wait 40 years till no-one remembers you, then kill you" excicutions, but 5 days after convicted your gone buddy.

We wonder why society is as bad as it is? its because kids are being raised in an enviorment where that kind of stuff is ok. THey don't know its wrong untill its too late.
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Suspended sentences, what a joke. Its disgusting, they knew what they were doing so they should have got 10 years plus
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Suspended sentences, what a joke. Its disgusting, they knew what they were doing so they should have got 10 years plus
absolutely, what made it worse was the fact that some of them saw fit to laugh as the trial was in progress, what kind of example are they setting to children or anyone else for that mater, I only hope someone recognizes them in the street and hounds them for the rest of there miserable lives, I know i would .
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god... just god... what is this world comming to? its sickening. those mothers don't deserve to raise thier childeren. those childeren deserve better. They deserve to live a life that isn't full of peer pressure from what should be a parental unit.

Doing any kind of harm to a kid, weather, its physical, mental, or sexual is the worst crime to me. Kids are innocent things that shouldn't have to go through that kind of trauma. It may be radical, too radical for some of you, but i think that should be grounds for excution. not the normal "wait 40 years till no-one remembers you, then kill you" excicutions, but 5 days after convicted your gone buddy.

We wonder why society is as bad as it is? its because kids are being raised in an enviorment where that kind of stuff is ok. THey don't know its wrong untill its too late.
yea. theres so many people around (mainly chavs) who have been raised to think this type of stuff is ok. its deffo the parents fault.

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Suspended sentences, what a joke. Its disgusting, they knew what they were doing so they should have got 10 years plus
yea. if you are caught speeding in your car or something stupid like that you have to go through the hassle of having a breath test, paying the fine, etc, especially when you are caught with a speed camera, thats just a joke imo. when serious crimes are comitted they dont seem to give a crap any more. is it because the prizons are full, they are spending too much time on petty crimes, they are going soft, who knows..
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yea. theres so many people around (mainly chavs) who have been raised to think this type of stuff is ok. its deffo the parents fault.


yea. if you are caught speeding in your car or something stupid like that you have to go through the hassle of having a breath test, paying the fine, etc, especially when you are caught with a speed camera, thats just a joke imo. when serious crimes are comitted they dont seem to give a crap any more. is it because the prizons are full, they are spending too much time on petty crimes, they are going soft, who knows..
Exactly right there, and the reason they get away with it is because theres no money in it to them, no they would sooner bill you for a fine so it can pay back a little or the billions of pounds the government spend on crap like giving liberty's to inmates in prison IE TV, computer , radio etc.
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suspended sentence is the biggest joke ever , i say sterilise them so they can neve have children again and life in jail
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How ...... Disgusting. How can people do that. I agree with celegorm.
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My God, that doesnt even make me mad, its one of those things that is so wrong it irritates the shit out of you...


Yeah thats what its doing to me.


My God.
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My God, that doesnt even make me mad, its one of those things that is so wrong it irritates the shit out of you...


Yeah thats what its doing to me.


My God.
Its so unthinkable , forcing children to fight, its like something out of Roman gladiator times,
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Its so unthinkable , forcing children to fight, its like something out of Roman gladiator times,
i also seen the paper this morning and some guy that was hosting dog fights in his house between dogs that where bred for the sole purpose of fighting and he got a prision sentence , i cant remember how long but jhe got a jail sentence so basically the government gives more rights to dogs than to children now

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i also seen the paper this morning and some guy that was hosting dog fights in his house between dogs that where bred for the sole purpose of fighting and he got a prision sentence , i cant remember how long but jhe got a jail sentence so basically the government gives more rights to dogs than to children now

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It really is very shocking. I could never hurt a child.
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Unfortunately its a sign of modern times these days, as a social worker I could tell you all sorts of indescribable horrors which I have seen, abuse situations, which have made me want to lamp the person who commits it, but can't do nothing because the police go..."there is not enough evidence"

Its sad, very sad state of affairs......
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