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Old 01-07-2010, 10:22 PM   #1
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Okay, this is just in the works right now, but I need some direction.

I want a server so that I can get all of my computers on the same page. I'd like to be able to stream to any computer in the house. There are 3 computers (not counting the server. 2 will eventually be on W7, the other is XP. I hope networking is a lot easier with W7, because in Vista I find it to be a b****. I'm not ENTIRELY sure what a print server is (like, does the printer have to be connected to the server?), but it'd be nice if the two printers in the house could be shared (could print to either from any computer)...

I'd like to be able to download on the server and use it as file storage as well. I'm debating which parts to use (that I have lying around), but I'm pretty sure I know what I'll be using.

What O/S should I go with? I've got a bunch of linux distros lying around I can use, or I can always get something else.

Give some direction, please!

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EDIT: Here's a little map. Desktop 1 and Printer 1 are physically wired. Same for desk. 2 and print. 2. But I'd like them to be able to share one another's printer...if that's possible. But, with that said, my main concern is just being able to stream to anywhere in the house.
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Well my PC Consists of an old Thin Client (Neoware e100,Similar to this one) because they are designed to be left on,they are silent and use minimal electricity!

Mine has a 1Ghz VIA C3 CPU with 1GB Ram and an 80GB 2.5" Laptop hardrive and is running Windows XP Pro,it runs perfect on these specs!

To figure out what specs you are going to want,you have to figure out what software to use. I'd personally use XP Because i know that better than linux! Also there are alot of good tools for XP to do what you want! As for hardware that's pretty much software dependant. I'd go with something 800Mhz Plus,512mb Plus and a decent hardrive.

Sharing printers in XP is Easy,this guide will tell you everything you'll need to know .

That's another good reason to stick with Windows,99% Of printers are XP Compatible. My server is purely file sharing/dowloading so im just using the intergrated video card. If you want to do video sharing you'll want to get an external GPU. Here's a good guide on media streaming on XP.

As for file sharing you could easily set this up using Workgroups and XP's inbuit filesharing but im using FTP so a friend brings a laptop over,i dont have to fiddle with his Workgroup settings to get to my shared files! I Use Filezilla as my FTP Server,here is a decent guide on getting that running.

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That first device you linked to...what's it do? I mean, I have a router...do I still need something else?

I'll probably stick with XP then if that's easiest to deal with. Also, why would the server need a video card if I stream to other computers? (wouldn't the computers receiving the stream need the GPU...in which case both do).

FTP sounds like a good idea, but I usually don't have people over often, so I might go the workgroup way. That tends to be what I understand. But that's for that tip. If I ever need to get more "advanced" I'd def. go with FTP.

I'll take another look at this in the morning and decide what's going on.

Also, the specs on the rig aren't exact, but I'm pretty sure it's P4...not sure on speed. I've got 2GB of DDR for it, so RAM is no problem. I'll probably need to purchase a PCI -> SATA card because I'm pretty sure there aren't SATA ports on the MB.

Thanks btw.
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Well i have never really build a media server but your right! Did a quick test and streamed a video too my desktop from my server,which uses an 8mb S3 Card (Which currently is using MS's stock drivers),the server cant play it properly but my main rig can. So Scratch the GPU

That First device i linked to is a Thin Client,basically it's a low spec,low power computer used for Large Networks where They link into larger servers and use domains and what not.

I Have modified one by adding extra RAM and a larger hardrive into my server. I Highly recomend one because they are Small,Completely Silent and use next to no electricity.
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OOOH. So the Thin Client IS your server.
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Yep
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That's pretty nifty. If I didn't have the spare stuff lying around to build a standard server, that's a pretty neat alternative. But, why spend money if you don't have to. I'm a tight wad. Haha.
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Excactly my point of view! Though my mum was complaining of the noise (Seriously 1 120mm fan isnt loud LOL) so to comply this was my next option,turns out it works out quite well.
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Oh. Just a lil off topic, but you should correct your sig. You have Project 355...instead of 365.
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I have a server - I use it as a Domain Controller, Storage Server and a "Streaming Server" for my Xbox 360, and as an iTunes Music Server.
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You should go with ubuntu server - it's great and easy to use. You just have to do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" then after its done, do ifconfig (in the terminal of course) then get the I.P and ssh into it. If you are on windows you can use putty from

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You should go with ubuntu server - it's great and easy to use. You just have to do "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" then after its done, do ifconfig (in the terminal of course) then get the I.P and ssh into it. If you are on windows you can use putty from

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I think this is why I'll have to go with XP.

That was a completely different language, mate.
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I have a server - I use it as a Domain Controller, Storage Server and a "Streaming Server" for my Xbox 360, and as an iTunes Music Server.
What software are you using to take care of streaming to your Xbox?
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Using WINDOWS for a server? Thats probably the worst thing you could ever do
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Um. Yeah. It's what I know. It's what I understand.

And it'll be used to link up 3 PCs. I don't need nothing too fancy. XP has always "worked". In fact, all Windows I've ever used have always "worked". I haven't found much to complain about, to be honest. At least I know what I'm doing with Windows. I know next to nothing about Linux.
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Im in the same boat as dude_56013,XP has always just worked. I Have used ubuntu to make a web server but XP With Apache is much easier.
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Hey, will my performance (downloading to the server and streaming to other computers) be hindered if I install the O/S on an older 40GB IDE drive and then use a new 1TB drive for the file storage and whatnot? Or should I install the O/S on the same drive as storage? Common sense would tell me that if they are separated, that'd be better.
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It'd take a bit of a hit just because you're using a slower drive, but chances are it's not something you'd notice. I'd definitely recommend keeping them separate though regardless - if nothing else it means you can wipe your OS really easily without ever touching the data drive. If you're running windows and therefore may see the need to reinstall every so often, this will be especially useful!
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It'd take a bit of a hit just because you're using a slower drive, but chances are it's not something you'd notice. I'd definitely recommend keeping them separate though regardless - if nothing else it means you can wipe your OS really easily without ever touching the data drive. If you're running windows and therefore may see the need to reinstall every so often, this will be especially useful!
Almost exactly what I was thinking. Or if I ever for some reason wanted to try a different server OS, it would be very very simple.
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Using WINDOWS for a server? Thats probably the worst thing you could ever do
care to say why?

Sounds like a fan boy rant to me. -windows server OS's do in fact make excellent servers, -ESPECIALLY for the home market.
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