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Old 09-16-2018, 07:29 PM   #1
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My i5 mobo took a hike so I had to use my i3 box while saving up for a new build. It was over 6 years old so I have a good run.

This time I wanted to check out the AMD Ryzen CPU so I ordered a Ryzen 3 2200G CPU ($89), a Gigabyte GA-AB350M-DS3H MOBO (x370 ChipSet) ($65) and an 1x8 Ballistic Sports DDR4 MEMORY ($80).

Turned out to be a really good setup and very similar to the i5, both quad cores and clocked the same almost but slightly faster because of the DDR4 memory. The i5 system was DDR3.

I even got another drive like my main drive which is Seagate Constellation Enterprise 1 TB. Both are made in 2013 but the main drive was $120 and my new drive was $50 with a 1 year warranty from Newegg. The new drive is in a removable caddy.

Well here I am!

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By the way, I replaced the i3 with the i5 CPU and it worked so the i3 system has been upgraded with the CPU, Memory (2x4) and the Video card (HD7770). All on the AsRock MOBO.

It is now the Kubuntu (Linux) box. This time I'm using the 32 gig cache SSD as the main drive. Works quite well and loaded with plenty of drive left.
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Sorry to hear about the board going but glad you like the new. I know that were not supposed to be able to run w7 on those but how about Linux with that AMD Ryzen?
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Really? Ryzen CPUs can't run w7? That's unusual.
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That's the poop. And includes i-9 as well. Something about them. No drivers for the chips in w7. 8.1 and 10 is the one OS it is supposed to work on, that and any new versions that may come out. Also vista has nothing in it kinda like the old Pentium 1's. They can't run the newer OS. I think millennial or 2000 was as far as it would go. Pentium 2 would work xp, but not later. Drivers are the issue. My next computer will be a A series amd processor so I can use w7. I only play games on it. Everything else is on my w10. I am looking for a way to keep it from going on-line, but let w10 to go on-line. Seems if I stop one it messes up the other as well. Don't know why... Have fun my friend!
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I didn't know AMD didn't support W7 on Ryzen. That's good information, Dan.

About Linux it seems that in 4.10 support for multithreading was added for Ryzen. As usual there are some bug reports as well. The main issue will be motherboarda for sure. There is always something that doesn't work (out of the box), especially in lower-end ones.
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That's what I was told. Can't remember where I got the info but I think it could be Cnet.com. don't hold me to that but I do remember reading about it somewhere. So my next computer will have a A series processor with ddr3 ram in it. Not sure if I should hold out for a A10 or A8. They had 4,6 and 8 cores in that series. In any 4 years from now, that "will" be old tech, but look what i put into my new..old computer. I think it's called cheap. That and able to make stuff work. I run a duel boot 2 hard drive computer. W7 on one and 10 on the other. I am still thinking about putting one of the Linux OS on the drive with w7. I can duel boot that drive as I only have my older games on it that will not work on w10. I think I am only using around 50 or so gigs. That leaves 200 gigs for another os to be run on that drive. After the last upgrade in April my copy of w10 have been for the most part rock study. Once it was good, I have 7 just for games only. Nothing else but music on it along with games. Anyway, once I figure out which copy of Linux I can start having fun with that. I almost wish i could put android on it. Not sure how that would work out.
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For Linux, get the latest. I have Kubuntu and it has software loaded to the gills to download for. It'll have an icon for you to click on when you have internet access.

This is the site to go to:

https://distrowatch.com/
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That site doesn't say much. The popular distributions are always the ones with the most graphical utilities. The actually good distributions are always at the bottom because they are not as "friendly" as the others. Arch and Gentoo are very good examples.

If you wanto to find your distribution, ask around in forums. That's the best way. I have used Linux distributions long enough to know that all distributions are the same, except for the software versions, package mangers and the amount of GUI tools and preconfiguration they have.
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Not everyone are tech savvy so it's good enough.
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Not everyone are tech savvy so it's good enough.
With any distribution you'll be doing some troubleshooting or console work. It's just a matter of time till you increase your savvyness or go back to Windows.
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I've tried lots of different Linux distros over the years but have never found one I would prefer to use instead of Windows. Linux always seems clunky to me and although I can do things from the command line (I started my career as a software engineer programming on mainframe computers), I prefer not to.


I run the Raspbian OS (a light weight version of Debian) on my Raspberry Pi hobbyist computers but if I could ditch it for Windows I probably would. Being a Linux derivative means that much of what you want to do on it requires the command line. Unfortunately, for the time being, Windows doesn't run on an ARM based processor but that is being worked on.
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Did I mention that I'm running Kubuntu on the 32 gig SSD? Can't be done with Windows.

Windows does have its place and very useful but uses lots of memory.
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Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, installing Windows takes about 20GB of space.
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I wouldn't want to do it but there are tablets available that ship with Windows 10 and a mere 32GB of storage. I used to have a tablet that came with 64GB which worked well. There was another model with 32GB and I saw people on forums constantly looking for a way to increase that.


One way to run Win 10 on a machine with a 32GB SSD would be to just put the OS on it, then have a larger spinner for everything else. Not my preference but it would be workable.
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If you have a 32GB SSD, you'd want to use it as cache. Otherwise, if you just put Windows in it, all you are gonna get are fast boot times and slow everything else.
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SSDs really don't speedup everything anyway. Putting the OS on an SSD speeds boot times and responsiveness of the system. An SSD doesn't do much for other software other than improve load times, unless that software is very disk intensive.


Just saw an ad for Fry's Electronics. They are selling a 60GB Patriot brand SSD for $19. I don't have a need at the moment but I'm tempted to pick up a couple at that price.
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Unfortunately, for the time being, Windows doesn't run on an ARM based processor but that is being worked on.
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i3's now come quad cores with performance better than older i5's. It even compares to later i5's like those of 6th and 7th gen. and I wonder if it's eve better than some older i7's due to the new architecture. i5's are now hexa-core. This means it has 6 cores, by the way.
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