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Old 04-20-2009, 05:16 AM   #1
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I was wondering if people could tell me if the HIS HD 4890 1GB GDDR5 is a good graphics card, and if it isnt, a card which is better and cost the same, thank you.
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I was wondering if people could tell me if the HIS HD 4890 1GB GDDR5 is a good graphics card, and if it isnt, a card which is better and cost the same, thank you.
Yes the 4870's are good cards but to be honest, this GTX Core 216 is alot more powerful and as other people will say (including myself) that the nvidia drivers are much better.
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:54 AM   #3
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Yes the 4870's are good cards but to be honest, this GTX Core 216 is alot more powerful and as other people will say (including myself) that the nvidia drivers are much better.


We need a bit more info, what are you system specs? Do you overclock? What is your monitor's native resolution? What are you using the system for?
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agreed lol, the 216 is NOT an overall "faster card" lol. the radeon 4870 gets closer to the gtx 280

and if you are looking to do gaming..the 4870 performs well on higher resolutions, the radeon 4890 i dont think is worth the extra money when theres only a considerable maybe 10% diff between the 4870 and 4890
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Those are all great cards, whatever you buy should be plenty for any game that is out there right now. You don't always have to buy the best or the fastest card.
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exactly, if your going to buy a 4890, please dont be a noob and buy it, buy the 4870
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Worship me, I am not an nVidia fanboy. I'll take whatever card better suits me. or that I can afford first. If I got given a 4870, I'm not going to turn around and sell it and get a GTX Core 216, I will take it for the great card that it is. And vissa-versa.
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why did you state that it was more powerful than a 4870? the gtx 216 isnt...
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Actually it is on the majority of games. Unless he's playing Dead Space, the Core 216 beats the 4870 in the majority of tests. Plus, you can get one for $169.99 with free shipping and a free copy of World At War.


Oh yeah, it also depends on what resolution you are playing on. What is the resolution of your monitor?
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:40 PM   #10
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Please do not turn this into an argument, or mods will close this thread, which wouldn't be fair on the OP.

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Please do not turn this into an argument, or mods will close this thread, which wouldn't be fair on the OP.

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Uh, how is this an argument? If you think this is an argument, we know you haven't been here long. Don't post with posts that don't help the OP in any way.

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1414&pageID=5825
http://www.guru3d.com/article/top-10...ore-216-test/1
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3408&p=1

The Core 216 almost matches the 280 in FPS and beats the 4870 1GB in the majority of tests. I know what I'm talking about.
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The two sites I keep an eye on are Guru3D and Anandtech. Guru3D has the 216 winning the majority, Anandtech has the HD 4870 1GB winning the majority. From where I'm standing they're pretty much equal. This is kind of like the 9800GTX+ vs HD 4850 debate, it's going nowhere.
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Uh, how is this an argument? If you think this is an argument, we know you haven't been here long. Don't post with posts that don't help the OP in any way.

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1414&pageID=5825
http://www.guru3d.com/article/top-10...ore-216-test/1
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3408&p=1

The Core 216 almost matches the 280 in FPS and beats the 4870 1GB in the majority of tests. I know what I'm talking about.
I was talking about spec and worshipme actually.. it seemed a little hairy than necessary to me, so don't pop at me over it .. sheesshh
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Rohan is a strong supporter of the core 216 man so he knows a lot, should listen to him
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If you are looking at getting the 4890 I'm sure you wont be disappointed but there isn't really alot of benchmarks for it yet since it just was released. Not many people have it yet and it hasn't really been reviewed much. So it is hard to tell how much better it is than the 4870 right now but its really not that much more expensive.

But If you are looking at getting one of the others suggested as was stated both the 4870 and the GTX 260 core 216 perform VERY similarly so basically it comes down to a few other things.

1. Which one is cheaper
2. Do you plan on either running SLI or Crossfire with whichever one you chose
3. Does your Motherboard support which ever one if you answered yes to #2

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exactly, if your going to buy a 4890, please dont be a noob and buy it, buy the 4870
The HIS 4890 1gb is actually cheaper with MIR than the HIS 4870 1gb right now... But the 260 Core 216 is DIRT cheap also... Tough Choice and kinda hard to pass up at under 170 bucks IMO...
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If you're going to spend $250 on a video card, I would suggest getting the EVGA GeForce GTX 275. It out performs the HD 4890 in most benches.

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Yes the 4870's are good cards but to be honest, this GTX Core 216 is alot more powerful and as other people will say (including myself) that the nvidia drivers are much better.
There is a better choice. Their drivers aren't necassarily "better." They are just more refined. It takes ATI a while to catch up.

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why did you state that it was more powerful than a 4870? the gtx 216 isnt...
It's not the "GTX 216," it's the GTX 260 Core 216.

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The two sites I keep an eye on are Guru3D and Anandtech. Guru3D has the 216 winning the majority, Anandtech has the HD 4870 1GB winning the majority. From where I'm standing they're pretty much equal. This is kind of like the 9800GTX+ vs HD 4850 debate, it's going nowhere.
I noticed that. Only Anandtech had the 4870 winning out of the 8 reviews I saw. I'll take that as a hint, haha.

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I was talking about spec and worshipme actually.. it seemed a little hairy than necessary to me, so don't pop at me over it .. sheesshh
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Rohan is a strong supporter of the core 216 man so he knows a lot, should listen to him
Gracias! I just like the most bang for my buck.



To the OP, get this Core 216.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150361
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