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Old 01-20-2018, 02:35 PM   #1
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When i woke up the computer this morning, It gave me a warning that my hard drive was full. the back-up files and downloaded files combined to 120 gb!! I had 10 to remove the files getting my space back. I found a update that hadn't downloaded or installed. So i went to download and a screen came up with "needed to troubleshoot windows update". Now it shows another window showing it has found a issue and asked me to have 10 fix it. Under resolving issues it says " Starting Bits Service". Its been at this for a hour. The hard drive light on the front of the tower hasn't blinked for almost all that time. Should I just stop it and try downloading direct from Microsoft?? What is Bits service anyway?? Another thing is the mouse seems to have a hiccup moving around the screen. Keeps freezing for a second then trys to move wherever i was trying to move it too.I was thinking about a restart and going to Microsoft for the download but wondering if that would screw it up more? Any ideas?? Help!
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It wouldn't do it so i went to microsoft and downloaded and opened. It came with a error message that said the usial message of not for this version of windows. Hehe, one window don't know what the other window is suppose to do! So i go back to the windows update and it is downloaded to 99%. Ok should i delete this and try it again? I got the warning failed to install code 0x80070020.
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Step 1: Remove Windows.
Step 2: Install Linux Mint.
Step 3: Profit!

Just kidding. Did you search the error code?

It may also help if you search for the specific update you are trying to install (KBxxx...). Sometimes there are specific bugs related to a particular update. For example, the other day I got an update that was not meant for my specific build, and I couldn't apply it.
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A bunch of double talk as usual.Right now i am letting it try and download and install 4 updates that it wants. One is again, again!
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I hate Microsoft, i had this issue with w7 and i gave up on it. Now w10 has it, linux will do the same thing sooner or later....
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From the history at ms update, in reguards to issue with install of KB4054517 it only gets to 99%install and stops this update stops this issue and fixes updating. KB4058702 fixes this issue.
I did both and right now it is restarting. Hope this works...
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Did you Google anything? If you did, could you post what you found?
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Google came up with the kb number and took me to ms downloads.i found out the info on ms site. My computer wasn't much help. Google didn't have much but to go to ms. There are several versions of the kb4054507. You need to select the proper download. And its a good idea to download and install the kb4058702 first, then the other download.
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Ok Dan, I'm having trouble understanding what you mean. Let's review:

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I found a update that hadn't downloaded or installed.
Which one?

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Now it shows another window showing it has found a issue and asked me to have 10 fix it.
What's the issue? Was it fixed?

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Under resolving issues it says " Starting Bits Service". Its been at this for a hour. The hard drive light on the front of the tower hasn't blinked for almost all that time. Should I just stop it and try downloading direct from Microsoft?? What is Bits service anyway??
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...(v=vs.85).aspx

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...b-4b951ace6360

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Another thing is the mouse seems to have a hiccup moving around the screen. Keeps freezing for a second then trys to move wherever i was trying to move it too.I was thinking about a restart and going to Microsoft for the download but wondering if that would screw it up more? Any ideas?? Help!
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ngs-or-freezes

Scroll down till you find the section that reads "troubleshooting a generic freeze".

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It wouldn't do it so i went to microsoft and downloaded and opened.
Wouldn't do what? What did you download and opened?

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So i go back to the windows update and it is downloaded to 99%. Ok should i delete this and try it again? I got the warning failed to install code 0x80070020.
What is it downloading?

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A bunch of double talk as usual.Right now i am letting it try and download and install 4 updates that it wants. One is again, again!
Which ones are those updates? Were they installed succesfully?



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From the history at ms update, in reguards to issue with install of KB4054517 it only gets to 99%install and stops this update stops this issue and fixes updating. KB4058702 fixes this issue.
I did both and right now it is restarting. Hope this works...
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...1-d5d500780963

See if that helps.

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Google came up with the kb number and took me to ms downloads.i found out the info on ms site. My computer wasn't much help. Google didn't have much but to go to ms. There are several versions of the kb4054507. You need to select the proper download. And its a good idea to download and install the kb4058702 first, then the other download.
Do you mean KB4054517? Did it work?

As a final note, you should try this:
  1. Open a command prompt with Admin rights
  2. Run sfc /scannow

That should detect and fix any corrupted system files.
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Ok, i will see if i can answer these interesting questions:
1):-) KB4054517 was failed first time on 1/10/2018. It from what i could tell had tried to install several times after a restart or whenever. I tried twice myself before i finally tried to fix the issue.
2):-)a popup window came up when i asked the troubleshooter to help with this update. It came up with It. Said finally that it had found a service bits needed to restart and it came up with a message that it couldn't do it. Gave a error message. So, off to ms and not much help there. I went back to the kb4054517 and did the google search. It had one for ms so i went there and reading possible issues and fixes. One that had described what mine was doing. Mine would download 99% then hang. From what it said kb4058702 was the patch fix for that issue. So the fix is:delete kb4054517. Download kb4058702. Let it install. It don't have to restart on that download. Next go to ms downloads and enter kb4054517. It will come up with 7 or8 options for that download. You have to pick out the right one for your system, mine is w10 pro 64 bit 1706 build. Click that and download and install it and restart and done! What a pain!! Why couldn't ms do that instead of downloading it and having a issue that makes you have to do it all manually. Anyway, i hope this helps. Sometimes i think ms does this just to piss us off!!!
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Add that i forgot the start of this issue, was when i woke up the computer it gave me a red box saying it was write full and needed to remove back up files and also downloaded files. Downloaded files was 111gb full of kb4054517!! After that is when i started the fixes
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So far the computer is working pretty fast again. All the freezing went away and online seems faster too. So i guess i fixed it this time. Now for the next hurdle, i know it will come, With windows 10 it just is a given anymore....
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Is there any reason why you use Windows?
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I have tried Linux and just can't figure out the ins and outs of it. I guess i'm to old to change. Still run two drives with w7 on the one and w10 on the other. I wish i could have bought a copy of 8.1 but this thing would have updated to 10 anyway if i didn't keep a close watch on it. Any system can be a royal PITA!!! Seems back when the 2000 came out what a mess. Vista was no better. Each has there goodies and bad.. just have to take the good with the bad and get on with it. I do remember issues with them all some more than others. 2000 was a PITA. XP not to bad, Vista shit, 7 real good, 8 junk, 8.1 not to bad, 10.. not so great. maybe 11 will come out soon and it will be like 7 really good! Biggest reason not to use Linux is My weather programs do not work in it. It almost don't like 7, the new software came out a little over a year ago and its 10 friendly. Thats about right. It plays nice with 10 better than anything else including 7. never had the chance with 8.1, but it was supposed to work with it and 7. The new software coming out with the Atlas Elite series will be 10 all the way. They just finally got new software for Macs! I don't have enough info as to if this new software will be Mac as well or not. But it will only work on w10 for now. It works better on Pro than Home. Maybe because its pro software or something. With the Weather Service involved anything is possible. All i know is when i upgrade my weather station next year, I will not have any choice when that software comes out. All said, it will be over 500 bucks for that new weather station, and thats with discount! Not cheap at all. Anyway, itt is what it is.....
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If you do decide to get into Linux, there are a few things I learned from when I was learning. First off, read all the documentation you can find about the distro you are using (I've found Fedora to have good info for begginers). Secondly, stick to the user-friendly distros (Mint, Ubuntu, Fedora), and last, read "The Linux Bible" by Negus. That book is fantastic.

What is this software you speak of? Maybe you can make it work with WINE? If Windows really bothers you so much you should try it. Being old isn't an excuse!!
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Its the software that comes from the weather station. Its a download that installs the drivers for the usb. Also handles the info in backup in case there is a power outage. It will send again as soon as power is restored. The new hub stores it in its own ms card. Its about 10 kbs a minite.The next gen will not use or will not require a computer. Just a wifi. Thats part of the upgrade i was talking about. It also has its own battery backup. I will have a different online screen and the new station itself has more measurements for more info for nws, wu and 4 others that are currently using our service. I am looking for the new system to come out of beta testing and we can get our grubby hands on it! I tried mint but just not easy. Maybe as soon as i can upgrade the weather station i can take out w10 and try mint again. That or maybe get another hdd.
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Its the software that comes from the weather station. Its a download that installs the drivers for the usb. Also handles the info in backup in case there is a power outage. It will send again as soon as power is restored. The new hub stores it in its own ms card. Its about 10 kbs a minite.The next gen will not use or will not require a computer. Just a wifi. Thats part of the upgrade i was talking about. It also has its own battery backup. I will have a different online screen and the new station itself has more measurements for more info for nws, wu and 4 others that are currently using our service. I am looking for the new system to come out of beta testing and we can get our grubby hands on it! I tried mint but just not easy. Maybe as soon as i can upgrade the weather station i can take out w10 and try mint again. That or maybe get another hdd.
Another HDD? To do what?
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Try Mint again
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You can have Windows and Mint on the same drive. You just need another partition. Extremely easy to do.
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I know, Just want it on a separate drive in case i screw it up.That way i don't mess up maybe both OS. I did that once already with mint.
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