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Old 02-22-2004, 09:22 AM   #51
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Also: Why the hell is Windows the top in that poll?!
Windows is at the top of the Poll because it is everybody's favourite!
Linux is at the bottom of the Poll because nobody likes it!
What does Linux have that Windows does not have in twice the quantity and quality?!
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Old 02-22-2004, 02:18 PM   #52
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Actually Linux is in the middle :P
Linux is faster, reliable, doesn't force load like Windows, doesn't hide files, only about 1 virii's for it, it's pretty un-hackable to people that don't know much, it's got the hacker feel, etc.
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Old 02-22-2004, 02:30 PM   #53
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Actually Linux is in the middle :P
Linux is faster, reliable, doesn't force load like Windows, doesn't hide files, only about 1 virii's for it, it's pretty un-hackable to people that don't know much, it's got the hacker feel, etc.
DevilHack, give it up. I have tried countless times to convince LK that Linux is far better than Windows. He won't listen.
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Well, I don't know why he doesn't like it.
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Well, I don't know why he doesn't like it.
I have no idea either. Everyone with a reasonable IQ knows that Linux is far better than any Microsoft product. But no ...
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Hmm:

Is Windows a Virus?

No, Windows is not a virus. Here's what viruses do:

* They replicate quickly - okay, Windows does that.

* Viruses use up valuable system resources, slowing down the system as they do so - okay, Windows does that.

* Viruses will, from time to time, trash your hard disk - okay, Windows does that too.

* Viruses are usually carried, unknown to the user, along with valuable programs and systems. Sigh... Windows does that, too.

* Viruses will occasionally make the user suspect their system is too slow (see 2) and the user will buy new hardware. Yup, that's with Windows, too.

Until now it seems Windows is a virus but there are fundamental differences:Viruses are well supported by their authors, are running on most systems, their program code is fast, compact and efficient and they tend to become more sophisticated as they mature.

So Windows is not a virus.

It's a bug.

And:

Linux is an operating system that was initially created as a hobby by a young student, Linus Torvalds, at the University of Helsinki in Finland. Linus had an interest in Minix, a small UNIX system, and decided to develop a system that exceeded the Minix standards. He began his work in 1991 when he released version 0.02 and worked steadily until 1994 when version 1.0 of the Linux Kernel was released. The kernel, at the heart of all Linux systems, is developed and released under the GNU General Public License and its source code is freely available to everyone. It is this kernel that forms the base around which a Linux operating system is developed. There are now literally hundreds of companies and organizations and an equal number of individuals that have released their own versions of operating systems based on the Linux kernel. More information on the kernel can be found at our sister site, LinuxHQ and at the official Linux Kernel Archives. The current full-featured version is 2.6 (released December 2003) and development continues.

Apart from the fact that it's freely distributed, Linux's functionality, adaptability and robustness, has made it the main alternative for proprietary Unix and Microsoft operating systems. IBM, Hewlett-Packard and other giants of the computing world have embraced Linux and support its ongoing development. More than a decade after its initial release, Linux is being adopted worldwide as a server platform primarily. Its use as a home and office desktop operating system is also on the rise. The operating system can also be incorporated directly into microchips in a process called "embedding" and is increasingly being used this way in appliances and devices.

Throughout most of the 1990's, tech pundits, largely unaware of Linux's potential, dismissed it as a computer hobbyist project, unsuitable for the general public's computing needs. Through the efforts of developers of desktop management systems such as KDE and GNOME, office suite project OpenOffice.org and the Mozilla web browser project, to name only a few, there are now a wide range of applications that run on Linux and it can be used by anyone regardless of his/her knowledge of computers. Those curious to see the capabilities of Linux can download a live CD version called Knoppix . It comes with everything you might need to carry out day-to-day tasks on the computer and it needs no installation. It will run from a CD in a computer capable of booting from the CD drive. Those choosing to continue using Linux can find a variety of versions or "distributions" of Linux that are easy to install, configure and use. Information on these products is available in our distribution section and can be found by selecting the mainstream/general public category.

If you're interested in learning about Linux, need help with some aspect of its use or are enthusiastic about it and want to help foster its adoption, you may want to get in touch with a Linux User Group in your area. There are groups in practically every country, region and city in the world, so there is likely to be one near you.

Linux has an official mascot, Tux, the Linux penguin, which was selected by Linus Torvalds to represent the image he associates with the operating system. Tux was created by Larry Ewing and and Larry has generously given it to the community to be freely used to promote Linux. More information on use of the image can be found on his webpage. More links to variations on the image and alternative logos can be found on our logo page

Many people are not sure of the pronunciation of the word Linux. Although many variations of the word exist, often due to native language factors, it is normally pronounced with a short " i " and with the first syllable stressed, as in LIH-nucks. You can hear how Linux creator Linus Torvalds pronounces the word in Swedish and in English .

More information on Linus Torvalds, (like, for example, why he, being Finnish, grew up speaking Swedish) can be found on Eric S. Raymond's popular Rampantly Unofficial Linus Torvalds FAQ page.
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Very interesting post DevilHack!
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DevilHack, give it up. I have tried countless times to convince LK that Linux is far better than Windows. He won't listen
Are you trying to insinuate that I am single minded and have no give in me when a superior item comes into my field of vision? I think not! I take this as a challenge to my intelligence; and I shall prove myself right! I shall take your challenger; use my CDs and write Linux onto a CD and install it on my 1.4! Then I shall show you all that my opinions are based on my opinions and not on ancient opinions chiselled into me at the beginning of time!

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Is Windows a Virus?

No, Windows is not a virus. Here's what viruses do:

* They replicate quickly - okay, Windows does that.
It depends whether you're a tree if you believe this - Windows XP has lasted for 3 Years and will have to go another 2 before Longhorn comes up to retake the banner of Windows to yet more victorious battles against Linux and Mac!

* Viruses use up valuable system resources, slowing down the system as they do so - okay, Windows does that.
Linux also takes up system resources - but I do not believe that those are valuable - depending on how slow the Computer is; all OSs take up space and system resources - being the biggest program runnable by a Computer. Is it also not true that Linux Graphical version uses 5GB space?

* Viruses will, from time to time, trash your hard disk - okay, Windows does that too.
Windows will never trash your Hard Disk - Programs you run on Windows and Choppers will do this far superiorly. The idea that Windows trashes HDs is ludicrous; its only because thats the only program running at the time that a Computer Crashes when people believe this - Windows will not Trash your HD!

* Viruses are usually carried, unknown to the user, along with valuable programs and systems. Sigh... Windows does that, too.
This point I do not understand

* Viruses will occasionally make the user suspect their system is too slow (see 2) and the user will buy new hardware. Yup, that's with Windows, too.
Nope - they only suspect this because it is, if their computer is to slow it wil be noticed more by a Windows User than a Linux User simply because Windows is bigger and will use a little bit more RAM than Linux - this doesn't make an equal speed Computer running Linux not too slow. It just means they don't notice the slowness.

Until now it seems Windows is a virus but there are fundamental differences:Viruses are well supported by their authors,
Windows has its own support website; its own support team accessable by every user, and its own update website to give updates continuously to the user
are running on most systems,
Windows runs on over 90% of Computers
their program code is fast,
No other program is even nearly as big and complex as Windows - the code on a Virus does not even compare the the extent of the Windows Code; so it is impossible to compare the speed of the two.
compact and efficient
If Windows were small it would not be as good - and I come back to the fact that the Linux-Half-Equal of Windows Version takes up 5GB
and they tend to become more sophisticated as they mature.
Windows has become more and more sophisticated as it has matured; and I am not even going to argue this because you must be stupid not to notice. Linux however - each new step someone making Linux takes, another person making Linux has to take on their own again, and then another person has to take that same step to work it out for himself. It inefficient to have a split system like that!
I have heard that before; and it is moronic! I have no time to go into it, but I hope that has helped you all.

I also have no care for the History of Linux! Open-Source is fundamentally flawed in the fact that its Open-Source. I shall have to post back on this later and talk about that flaw to DevilHack who has not heard my point on this.
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Sorry Kalthorn, I can't be bothered to read all that! It is late here and I am sleepy!
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I also have no care for the History of Linux! Open-Source is fundamentally flawed in the fact that its Open-Source. I shall have to post back on this later and talk about that flaw to DevilHack who has not heard my point on this.
inlighten me please.
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