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Old 03-07-2008, 01:07 PM   #1
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right heres the deal,

i need a script preferably in java script, or something that can be published to the internet live,

and heres what it has to do,

every 0.864 seconds add 1, so its a counter but it counts slightly faster than every 1 seconds,

e.g after i want this counter to reach 10 after 8.640 seconds,

and then after it gets to 100, i need it to add 1 on another part and start again from 0, until it gets to 100 again,

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the idea is me and a friend of mine are trying to get into "metric time" where we have 100,000 seconds in a day as apposed to 86400 just to square things off "metric" and ways we worked out to keep it in metric, we should have 10 hours a day, 100 miniutes in each hour, 100 seconds in each miniute, 100 seconds X 100 miniutes X10 hours, thats the 100,000 seconds in a day, now in "imperial time" that releates to about 27 hours, the solution, make the metric second 0.864 seconds long, therefore it would still be the 24 hour mark,

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there is deep thought into this between me and my friend, the discussion started on birthdays and how i was born at 02:00 AM on the 14/03/1991 and how i should really celebrate my birthday this year on the 13th,

explanation, the earth actually takes 365 days 6 hours 9 minutes 9.54 seconds to orbit the sun, every 4 years we get a leap year to even things out right, wrong, every 4 years we even out the 6 hours not the 9 miniutes and 9.54 seconds, (every 4 years we add up the 6 hours from the previous years to make 24 hours and add an extra day) so the 9 miniutes and 9.54 seconds adds up,.

9 X 60 = 540 + 9.54 = 549.54, seconds every year we loose, im 17 so i have lost 17 X 549.54 secods = 9342.18 seconds 60 = 155.703 60 = 2.59505 hours.

so this year my brithday would actually fall on the 13th of march. e.g i was born at 2.0 am in the morning and we have lost 2.59505 hours so therefore i should celebrate at 11:28 PM on 13/03/1991 this year,

so we came up with making a new time, "metric time" which would never be wrong, we would keep it simple, the second will not be 0.864 of a second that we know now, the will be 100 seconds in a miniute, 100 miniutes in an hour, 10 hours in a day, 10 days in a week, 100 days in a month, 10 months in a "year"

note. year may be replaced as people would not want to celebrate there birthday every 1,000 days, but we planned a bank holiday call. "orbit day" which would be the day the earth has completely rotated around the earth once again, every 365 days so people could still celebrate there birthdays.
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If you read all this and understood well done, you are one of few who actually now realise how wrong imperial time is,
i realise this will never catch on world wide but i believe we could get a small community of followers.

any questions please ask i know there are some flaws in "metric time".
also the sole purpose of this thread was for the script so if any1 could help i would be very greatful.

Thanks For Reading, Scott.

Edit: Today the imperial date is, 07/03/2008, if you count since 0 AC then we have lost 2008 X 9 mins and 9.54 seconds or 549.54 seconds so 2008 X 549.54 = 1103476.32 60 = 18391.272 miniutes 60 = 306.5212 hours 24 = 12.77171666 days,

"today" the 07th of march is infact the 24th february 2008. !
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which two months are you going to drop

and what about the seasons? If the "metric" year is shorter, then seasons such as winter and summer are going to very every decade?
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which two months are you going to drop

and what about the seasons? If the "metric" year is shorter, then seasons such as winter and summer are going to very every decade?
havent decided on which 2 months 2 drop yet

as far as the seasons go, they will remian the same,
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In Britain, people traditionally say that the seasons begin about seven weeks earlier: spring begins on Candlemas (February 2), summer on May Day (May 1), autumn on Lammas (August 1), and winter on All Hallows (November 1).
the ke here is to convert everything to seconds. 31 days of january + 2 days of febuary. 33 X 24 X 60 X 60 = 2851200 seconds X 1.1574 = 3299978.88.

spring will start 3299978.88 secods into the "metric" year,

3299978.88 100 (seconds to miniutes) = 32999.7888 100 ( miniutes to hours) = 329.997888 10 ( hours into days ) 32.9997888 days, or 3 weeks and 2 days,

there is not much difference in that, but as you get further into the year there will be a bigger difference.

then at the end of spring summer will start the according no. of seconds after. and so on
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ok, and one pretty obvious point - if a day is 10 hours - and our normal days are 12 hours, you will get days where the "daytimes" are going to be in the middle of the night, and the "nighttime" is going to be during the day.
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no you wont because, "metric" days are 10 hours long but a "metric hour" is 100 metric miniute which is 0 metric seconds,

trust me it all works at to be the equivalent of 24 hours,

all it means is that at 12 midday it will be 5 hours into the metric day, the same amount of time would have passed.

note, at 11 o'clock at night as we know t,

the time would be.

23 hours X 60 X 60 = 82800 seconds into the day, so

82800 X 0.864 = 95833 metric seconds,

and just from that with no furter calculatiosn i could tell u the time would be, 9 hours / 58 mins and 33 seconds into te metric day.

watches and clocks would simply have to display how many metric seconds we are into a day and it would be simple to work out.

9,58,33 seconds into a day.

1st number is the amount of hours you are into the day. 9 hours
2nd number is the number of miniutes you are into that hour
3rd number is the number of seconds you are into that miniute.

thats the beauty of metric because everything would be in multiples of 10's its simple to work out, the precise time.

Edit. i have a nice forumuar to work it out,

T = time,
H = hours
M= mins,

get T
(hX60+m)X60X1.1574

and that would display the time in metric second. am i right?
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heh ok i see what you mean but personally im still not convinced
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im sure your not lol, i am and i just need to put that forumular into some javascript. if some1 could help me i would be very greatful
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Interesting but good luck if your lobbying to get it changed. Although it works out better there would be mass confusion everything we know would have to be re programmed and re worked.

I think the overwhelming majority of people will be satisfied with just adding a extra day to the calender year once every 4 years.
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Interesting but good luck if your lobbying to get it changed. Although it works out better there would be mass confusion everything we know would have to be re programmed and re worked.

I think the overwhelming majority of people will be satisfied with just adding a extra day to the calender year once every 4 years.
yes but in the long run we will encounter problems a large problem will be the time the seasons of the year start since 0 BC we have lost 12 days . therefre in the future the seasons will get further and further out. because the earth doesnt change its orbiting speed but we are miss calculating it by rounding it up and ignoring the 9 mins 9.54 secs every year
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This is why we don't use the metric system in america.
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