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Old 05-07-2005, 06:06 PM   #181
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it isnt that small...


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SHIP NAME LAUNCH
DATE DISPLACEMENT
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CREW

Aircraft Carriers

INVINCIBLE (RO5) 1977 22,000 1051
ILLUSTRIOUS (RO6) 1978 22,000 1051
ARK ROYAL (RO7) 1981 22,000 1051



Amphibious Assault Ship

OCEAN (L12) 1995 20,700 265
ALBION (L14) 2001 18,500 363
Type 42 Destroyers Batch 1
CARDIFF (D108) 1974 4,820 253


Type 42 Destroyers Batch 2

EXETER (D89) 1978 4,820 253
SOUTHAMPTON (D90) 1979 4,820 253
NOTTINGHAM (D91) 1980 4,820 253
LIVERPOOL (D92) 1980 4,820 253



Type 42 Destroyers Batch 3

MANCHESTER (D95) 1980 5,200 301
GLOUCESTER (D96) 1982 5,200 301
YORK (D98) 1982 5,200 301
EDINBURGH (D97) 1983 5,200 301


Type 23 Frigates

ARGYLL (F231) 1989 4,900 181
MARLBOROUGH (F233) 1989 4,900 181
LANCASTER (F229) 1990 4,900 181
IRON DUKE (F234) 1991 4,900 181
MONMOUTH (F235) 1991 4,900 181
MONTROSE (F236) 1992 4,900 181
WESTMINSTER (F237) 1992 4,900 181
NORTHUMBERLAND (F238) 1992 4,900 181
RICHMOND (F239) 1993 4,900 181
SOMERSET (F82) 1994 4,900 181
GRAFTON (F80) 1994 4,900 181
SUTHERLAND (F81) 1996 4,900 181
KENT (F78) 1998 4,900 181
PORTLAND (F79) 1999 4,900 181
ST ALBANS (F83) 2000 4,900 181


Type 22 Frigates Batch 3

CORNWALL (F99) 1985 5,300 250
CUMBERLAND (F85) 1986 5,300 250
CAMPBELTOWN (F86) 1987 5,300 250
CHATHAM (F87) 1988 5,300 250


Antarctic Patrol Ship

ENDURANCE (A171) 1991 6,000 112


Castle Class Patrol Vessels

LEEDS CASTLE (P258) 1980 1,427 45
DUMBARTON CASTLE (P265) 1981 1,427 45


River Class Patrol Vessels

TYNE (P281) 2003 1,677 30
MERSEY (P283) 2003 1,677 30
SEVERN (282) 2003 1,677 30


Ocean Survey Vessels

SCOTT (H131) 1996 13,500 63


Coastal Survey Vessels

GLEANER (H86) 1983 26 5
ROEBUCK (H130) 1985 1,200 46


Multi-Role Survey Vessel

HMS ECHO (H87) 2002 3,500 72
HMS ENTERPRISE (H88) 2002 3,500 72


Vanguard Class Submarines

VANGUARD (S28) 1995 15,980 135
VICTORIOUS (S29) 1995 15,980 135
VIGILANT (S30) 1995 15,980 135
VENGEANCE (S31) 1998 15,980 135


Swiftsure Class Submarines

SOVEREIGN (S108) 1973 4,900 116
SUPERB (S109) 1974 4,900 116
SCEPTRE (S104) 1976 4,900 116
SPARTAN (S105) 1978 4,900 116


Trafalgar Class Submarines

TRAFALGAR (S107) 1981 5,200 130
TURBULENT (S87) 1982 5,200 130
TIRELESS (S88) 1984 5,200 130
TORBAY (S90) 1985 5,200 130
TRENCHANT (S91) 1986 5,200 130
TALENT (S92) 1988 5,200 130
TRIUMPH (S93) 1991 5,200 130


Sandown Class Minehunters

WALNEY (M104) 1991 600 34
BRIDPORT (M105) 1992 600 34
PENZANCE (M106) 1997 600 34
PEMBROKE (M107) 1997 600 34
GRIMSBY (M108) 1998 600 34
BANGOR (M109) 1999 600 34
RAMSEY (M110) 1999 600 34
BLYTH (M111) 2000 600 34
SHOREHAM (M112) 2001 600 34


Hunt Class Minehunters

BRECON (M29) 1978 750 45
LEDBURY (M30) 1979 750 45
CATTISTOCK (M31) 1981 750 45
COTTESMORE (M32) 1982 750 45
BROCKLESBY (M33) 1982 750 45
DULVERTON (M35) 1982 750 45
MIDDLETON (M34) 1983 750 45
CHIDDINGFOLD (M37) 1983 750 45
HURWORTH (M39) 1984 750 45
ATHERSTONE (M38) 1986 750 45
QUORN (M41) 1988 750 45


Archer Class P2000 Fast Training Boats

ARCHER (P264) 1985 54 11
BITER (P270) 1985 54 11
EXAMPLE (P165) 1985 54 11
EXPLORER (P164) 1985 54 11
SMITER (P272) 1985 54 11
BLAZER (P279) 1988 54 11
CHARGER (P292) 1988 54 11
EXPLOIT (P167) 1988 54 11
EXPRESS (P163) 1988 54 11
PUNCHER (P291) 1988 54 11
RAIDER (P275) 1998 54 11
RANGER (P293) 1988 54 11
TRACKER (P274) 1998 54 11
TRUMPETER (P294) 1988 54 11


Gibraltar Squadron 16m Fast Patrol Class

SABRE (P285) 2003 24 5
SCIMITAR (P284) 2003 24 5


ROYAL FLEET AUXILIRY

Fast Fleet Tankers

WAVE RULER (A390) 2002 31,500 80 + 22 RN
WAVE KNIGHT (A389) 2002 31,500 80 + 22 RN


Support Tankers

BRAMBLELEAF (A81) 1980 40,870 56
BAYLEAF (A109) 1982 40,870 56
ORANGELEAF (A110) 1982 40,870 56
OAKLEAF (A111) 1981 49, 377 36


Small Fleet Tankers

GREY ROVER (A269) 1970 11,522 54
GOLD ROVER (A271) 1974 11,522 54
BLACK ROVER (A273) 1974 11,522 54


Fleet Replenishment Ships

FORT VICTORIA (A387) 1992 31,565 95 + 15 RN + STO(N)
FORT GEORGE (A388) 1993 31,565 95 + 15 RN + STO(N)
FORT ROSALIE (A385) 1978 23,482 114 + 45 AIR SQDN
FORT AUSTIN (A386) 1979 23,482 114 + 45 AIR SQDN


Landing Ships (Logistic)

SIR BEDIVERE (L3004) 1967 6,700 49
SIR GALAHAD (L3005) 1988 8,750 49
SIR PERCIVAL (L3036) 1968 5,764 51
SIR TRISTRAM (L3505) 1985 6,407 51


Strategic Sea Lift

SEA CRUSADER (A96) 12,350 17


Aviation Training Ship

ARGUS (A135) 1988 28,080 79 + 137 AIR SQDN


Forward Repair Ship

DILIGENCE (A132) 1981 10,765 38

thats a fair few ships if you ask me... lol
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Not very big I think... very small... nothing too much. No wonder why you couldn't deploy all that many forces to Iraq.
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Wops, I made a mistake. So automaticaly I get Pwned.

Also Giany, heres a more up to date page for you, it's a shame you link to somthing 3 years old
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/2204.html

You should be to for the following. Guess what - A MISTAKE DONE DUE TO EMOTIONS.

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Well I'll apologize for that.
I still insist that the British Military could produce more Bang per person in it!

Our navy is in no way tiny, when you compare it to the population of the UK. Is the Americans 4.5 times larger? Didn't think so.
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Old 05-07-2005, 06:09 PM   #184
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Wops, I made a mistake. So automaticaly I get Pwned.

Also Giany, heres a more up to date page for you, it's a shame you link to somthing 3 years old
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/2204.html

You should be to for the following. Guess what - A MISTAKE DONE DUE TO EMOTIONS.
That says basically the same thing. And I actually defended the British navy saying it has three aircraft carriers. VSTOL ones..

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Go insist anything you want. you can insist till hell freezes over. Not that I care.

The navy is small especially compared to what it once was.
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Not very big I think... very small... nothing too much. No wonder why you couldn't deploy all that many forces to Iraq.
Lol, but we were left to take positions the US couldn't - Reffering here to the better training.
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Lol, but we were left to take positions the US couldn't - Reffering here to the better training.
That's nonsense. We were doing work in more hostile areas of Iraq and told you guys to take over some less hostile areas. There are like two or three provinces in Iraq that aren't secure. Guess where the bulk of US forces are? In those areas. And where are the Brits? In the secure south. Nice try.

Appears the US military has better training.
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the royal navy is not at all small compared to the size of the population of Great Britain.

and there are more aircraft carriers coming into service in 2015.
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and the Royal navy has some of the best naval training too...
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As I said before, I don't need to defend anything. It is you pressurising me into it by not acknolodging that it's possible the chinese has a better tank than the US.

I have already said a few times that the US could overpower the UK, but why would it.

Is this the only way you can responed to the "Chinese has a tank with a cool laser weapon"

What a distance to go.

If the Americans are so mightyful, why the need for us, the ausies, the japs e.t.c. they were also deployed on an US led attack.
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Well one simple thing is the Chinese don't have a better tank then the US. I don't like the chassis. It looks old.
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