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Old 01-29-2007, 04:28 PM   #1
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Is there a website or is there anyone here who can translate this following phrase into latin?

"Never Trust a Hope."

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Old 01-29-2007, 04:42 PM   #2
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According to a site i done it on it came back with this, but iit could be totally wrong, i honestly wouldnt know

Min empisteytheite pote mia elpida.
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:09 PM   #4
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bablefish doesn't have Latin
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The closest translation I can work out to translating that is, as follows;

Haud fides despero

Which translates to By no means trust hope, I can't seem to find a translation for never, so used a close proximily of it....
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The closest translation I can work out to translating that is, as follows;

Haud fides despero

Which translates to By no means trust hope, I can't seem to find a translation for never, so used a close proximily of it....

Thanks, I think thats what I need,

BTW, Could you please include a pronunciation(sp?) with it so I can say it?
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Is there a website or is there anyone here who can translate this following phrase into latin?, "Never Trust a Hope." Thanks
Try Urban Dictionary on the web.
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Try Urban Dictionary on the web.
No, that doesn't do translations. It's a massive slang dictionary...
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No, that doesn't do translations. It's a massive slang dictionary...
Oh damn, Thanks!
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when I first saw this thread I thought that Brookfield may have been able to answer, (I assumed that he may have learned some Latin in school).
-which is why I didn't answer...
My brother learned som Latin, though it has to be said that it's basically a dead/useless language!

but, nether the less.


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...ctionary&meta=

seems there are many possibly permeatations of what you are trying to say..

ymo (immo): on the contrary, by no means/ by all means
haud : no, not at all, by no means.
despero : to be without hope, despair / despair of, give up.
despero : to have no hope, despair, give up.
spera : (n.pl.) hopes
spero : to hope for, hope.
spes : hope.
paciscor : to make a bargain or agreement, covenant, deal.
re : in
perfidia : treachery, faithlessness.
perfidiosus : treacherous, faithless
opto : to desire, wish for, want.
nec : conj, and not
non : not.
numquam : at no time, never.
nullus : not any, no, none.
fides : trust, confidence, reliance, belief, faith

so there are many possible ways of saying never trust a hope, but no way of saying that exactly.
never trust hopes - numquam fides spera
By no means trust hope - ymo fides spes
trust no hopes - fides nullus spera
trust not hope - fides nullus spes
trust and not hope - fides nec spero
trust not in hopes - fides nullus re spero

the gramatical structure should be very close to a language that is very closely tied to latin, the words appearing as they would make sense in english is probably fine, but you should perhaps look towards a more latin language for gramatical rules, (something like Italian/spanish).

pronounciation will be much like it's written as well. it's almost impossible to describe pronounciation in words, so I won't even try. but the same suggestion applies as above, for the way to say the words seek inspiration from heavily latin based languages.
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