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Old 03-23-2013, 08:17 AM   #1
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Two Teen Boys Arrested in Georgia Baby Shooting Death - ABC News
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:31 AM   #2
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That's just sick.
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:24 PM   #3
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I gave up hope for the human race a long time ago.

It was when I was 10, I was in primary school.

On the news there was a story that a todler (Jame buldger) had been abducted, tortured and killed. (If I recall correctly killed was by way of a brick to the head or something like that).

The killers, (John venebles and Rogert Thomson) were the same ago as I was 10!

Now, (20 years later) the killers have been out of prison for some time, given new identities and the law persecutes those who try to uncover those new identities.

I don't understand how anyone can take a life of a child like that!

To be honest, I can't really recall a time when I've felt uber hopeful that the human race wasn't just a waste of space that just invents new and interesting ways all the time to kill and mame people or animals, or that those who are placed in a position of trust don't abuse it etc...

that's what I like about computers, they mostly do what you tell them to do and generally don't hurt anybody!!
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I hope these kids hang.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:56 PM   #5
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The prison won't be kind to them. The convicts absolutely hates child molesters and child killers.
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That's just sick.
It certainly is..

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I hope these kids hang.
I doubt the prison would do that..
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Old 03-23-2013, 06:49 PM   #7
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Aw, come on! You guys have heard the old saying, "1 bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch." Haven't you? Atrocious acts such as this don't speak well for certain members of the human race but certainly isn't representative of the whole race either.

It's hard for the news outlets to sensationalize something as boring as an act of kindness but that doesn't mean those acts don't occur everyday and in larger quantities than the atrocities.
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It speaks volumes about the state of the human race. We kill each other in cold blood every day. And for what? Money, power, possessions? These things mean nothing if you have to take a life to obtain them. And to take the life of an innocent child is a horrendous crime committed by low life scum.
An eye for an eye if you want to look at it that way. I agree with OhSnapWord.
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Seti - I think you may have not done well in Logic class.

An act like this only speaks volumes about the individuals who did it, not the entire race. Think about all the people you know, then think about how many of them have done things like this. I'll bet you personally know people who have performed extremely selfless gestures but doubt you personally know anyone that has done anything in comparison to what these boys did. If it wasn't for TV, radio, internet, etc... media blitz you probably would have never heard of this particular act.
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I did rather well in logic and flow charting. It's my strong feelings about such news items that make me feel we are hopeless as a race. Granted there're are acts of bravery and kindness every day around the world. Hero's abound. And you're right, those don't make the 6 o'clock news.
It's the darker side of man that gets attention.

As for not hearing about this if not for the news media, fair enough. I saw it on the local news here in the podunk town I'm in, in Mississippi. It was also on the ABC Morning News program. Hard to miss seeing it. Even the reporters were upset.
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Welcome to reality setishock, Mankind can be really cruel & evil.....always has & always will be.
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Yes, some individuals in this world can be very cruel indeed. This guy was one I particularly disliked: Lawrence Singleton, despised rapist, dies / He chopped off teenager's arms in 1978 - SFGate
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I did rather well in logic and flow charting. ...
I wasn't talking about Logic and flow charting, I was referring to a class on Logic where you learn to discern which arguments are valid or not. For instance, your argument would break down to something like this:

Individuals A & B committed a horrific crime.
A & B are members of the human race.
Therefore, all members of the human race are horrific.


Based on the first 2 arguments (assuming that they are true), is the 3rd statement true?

When broken down to this format, it becomes clear that your argument is invalid.

(Dang. My head hurts from recalling that stuff I learned in Logic class in college 35+ years ago!)
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It's hard to have faith in the human race when only shocking acts of violence make the news. We almost never hear about the guy who saved someone from getting hit by a car or the woman who rescued somoene from a burning building.

why? Because acts of heroism and kindness don't sell newspapers.
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Earlier this century, I found the author Barbara Tuchman and started reading her histories, and they soothed my beliefs that we're heading to hell in a handbasket. The world HAS been in more difficult straits, her works convinced me. A DISTANT MIRROR is a great one - a long history of Europe in the 13th and 14th Centuries, full of marauding gangs, the beginning of unionized labor vs serfdom, the Brits owned the Atlantic Coast of France for a while longer, and the era of the Two Popes.

Or if you think our world politics only recently suck, check out her much shorter history, A PROUD TOWER, discussing the populist movements and a handful of important personalities from 1870 to 1914. I only thought we had it bad NOW.
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...Granted there're are acts of bravery and kindness every day around the world. Hero's abound. And you're right, those don't make the 6 o'clock news.
It's the darker side of man that gets attention.
if it bleeds it leads.

there is nothing new there!!
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Horrible just horrible.

My jaw dropped when i read that story, that is really sad.

I hope those teens get their just desserts
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