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Old 01-17-2017, 04:12 PM   #1
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Hello guys.

Without any ado at all (except for the hello above)... let's get started.

Its and it's:
There is a big difference here. "Its" is the possessive form of the pronoun "it". Example for it is "this car looks ugly. Its grill is so big and deformed". The two relate exactly the same as with "he" and "his", and "she" and "her".
"It's" on the other hand is an abbreviation of either "it is" or "it has". And example for them is "it's interesting how it's been only two hours since we got here". The first "it's" stands for "it is" and the second stands for "it has".

Should of?!?!?
Okay, there is no such a thing as "should of". That's a wrong English... ah... thing. It is a mistake people make (hey, that rhymes!) when they try to type "should have". So yeah, the right spelling is "should have" or, as an abbreviation, "should've" <<< (the reason some people think it is "should of" because it sounds like it).

Your and you're:

I believe this is so obvious. "Your" is basically the possessive form of "you", and "you're" is an abbreviation of "you are". Because of the way they sound, just like the earlier problems, this misspelling is seen from time to time.

There and they're (and rarely "their"):
Same as above, these two are sometimes confused with each other because of how they sound. "There" is the distant form the "here" (there are other uses for it too), "they're" is an abbreviation of "they are, and "their" is the possessive form of "they".

Me and I ?
Okay, this is not a spelling mistake really, it is more of a verbal miss use. Sometimes, usually when more than one subject/object is used, "me" could be mistakenly used instead of "I". When the referred noun is used as a subject part of speech, "I" is used, but when it is used as an object part of speech, "me" is used. Examples for that are " Carlita and I went to the grocery store" and "RF gave gifts to Psychoslice and me".

Abdul?!?!
There is no such a word or name as "Abdul". It's a made up name by the misinformed non Arabs that became ridiculously common. Originally it is "abd" and a transformed "al", where the former means slave or creation and the latter is just the definitive article "the" in Arabic cut from the word that should follow it. When it is used, the right and correct way to use it is to connect it to another word without spaces. An example is "Abdulelah", or it can be spelled "AbdulElah" as the connected word is originally Elah, as Muslims use it to refer to God. Arabs before Islam used it too with other gods. That name is actually "Abd" + "al" + "Elah". The only way that "Abdul" is correct word, as opposed to my explanation, is that if it is originated from something else other than that. Actually, there are three ways to put such names depending on their position in the context, but that's complicated and I believe it is okay to just used the above mentioned form in languages other than Arabic.

I've and I have:
The first one; "I've" is obviously an abbreviation of "I have". What could be hidden here tho is that "have" here is an auxiliary verb, not a lexical verb. In layman language, auxiliary verbs are verbs used to support other verbs like in cases of perfect tense sentences; e.g I have seen. Here it can be abbreviated to "I've seen". A lexical verb "have" is as in the example "I have some shawurma here". It is formally wrong to say "I've some shawurma here". Some Americans use it, and there is no problem with that at all. All I'm doing here is telling how the original correct way to do it in good standard English. It probably was "I've got (any object)" that with time transformed to "I've (an object)".

Am I missing anything else?

Important note:
I don't mean it is bad to make those mistakes in normal daily life conversations nor am I trying to be a jerk. All there is to it is that I'm clarifying the real correct use of it. I honestly think some people don't know "should of" is actually wrong.
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Old 01-17-2017, 09:22 PM   #2
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Well hell, I should of known that.
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Yeah, its common sense
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You left out:

The two of us want to go to the store too.
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She sells seashells by the seashore.
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You left out:

The two of us want to go to the store too.
Come to think of it... I do see people mistake too and to, although extremely rarely.
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The one that drives me crazy (figuratively) is when people interchange then and than.
Then is temporal, "now and then" while than is comparative, "I am taller than you."

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Come to think of it... I do see people mistake too and to, although extremely rarely.
Can you think of a way that is grammatically correct to say "There are three tüs in the English Language" without using the phonetic?

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I see you used the word 'tho', which of course is not a word at all, you meant to write 'though'.

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I see people abbreviate 'until' as till, when it should be 'til' since a 'till' is a cash register drawer.
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What about who and whom? Use who when it can be replaced by he and whom when it can be replaced by him.
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The English is being butchered because we're using shortcuts to save on typing. I'm guilty for some and it's already a habit.
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The one that drives me crazy (figuratively) is when people interchange then and than.
Then is temporal, "now and then" while than is comparative, "I am taller than you."
Oh yeah, the then and than problem is there too. Verbal language is originally spoken, and writing is just a tool to put the language down on records so I'd understand why should of and should've would be confused for sounding similar, but confusing then and than feels beyond simply sounding similar.

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Can you think of a way that is grammatically correct to say "There are three tüs in the English Language" without using the phonetic?
Further to what I said above that verbal language is originally spoken, I'm used to that expression of numbering in some rare cases and honestly cannot think of a way to use it unless there is an unorthodox way to refer to them that gets used and with time becomes known. An example I know of is the Three F's the those three stand for "effin, financing and feeding" (where effin is the bad F word). Google search has come to know this Three F's and the first search page will give it directly. So I guess maybe at some point we can call them the Three T's in English? Note sure, but I think how "to" has its special rule to sound with long or short /u/ could ruin this rule.

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I see you used the word 'tho', which of course is not a word at all, you meant to write 'though'.
Yes, that's rights. I'm intentionally doing it as a short form for informal writing just to save time. Trying to save time is indeed a problem. Let alone the hassle of writing "though"... ugh? Dunno why English has it like this really if there is no other word as "tho" which sounds exactly the same... or does it not?

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I see people abbreviate 'until' as till, when it should be 'til' since a 'till' is a cash register drawer.
Now that one is very good to add to the list.

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What about who and whom? Use who when it can be replaced by he and whom when it can be replaced by him.
Ditto.

Being an English graduate, I explain this one in a professional way. Who is used if it is in a subject and whom if it is an object. This trick of he and him is a good one for layman use.

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The English is being butchered because we're using shortcuts to save on typing. I'm guilty for some and it's already a habit.
True, this is the most important cause behind it. But the difference is whether we know if it is a mistake or not, or whether we know that if we do it we could cause a confusion.

This thread is not really to bash you and others for that approach. I just felt that it is a good idea to make it so those who got used to it without knowing the correct usage in the first place could go on thinking they are correct.

Like I said, I have a strong feeling some people really thing "should of" is correct and never knew the correction is actually "should've (or have)". I remember seeing a sign that says "if you're in America, speak are language". I can't think of a reason why one would mistake our with are.
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As to ME and I, for proper usage separate them.

Randy and me are going to the movies for example. Separate them to:

"Randy is (singular for are) going to the movies" is good but "me is going to the movies" is bad.

John is going to the movies with Randy and me:

"John is going to the movies with Randy" is good and "John is going to the movies with me" is good also.
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Yes, that's what I meant by "Sometimes, usually when more than one subject/object is used, 'me' could be mistakenly used instead of 'I'." in the original post. I don't remember seeing anyone mistaking them in singular form.

That addition is a good one, BTW. I couldn't have said it better to explain how to test the proper use.
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This is how you test it, separate them and if both sound right then you got it right.

I am going to the movies.

Randy is going to the movies,

We are going to the movies and Randy is going with me.
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One of my pet peeves is when someone doesn't use the correct tense of a word. For instance, many people would say, "We were suppose to go to the store yesterday" when they actually should say, "We were supposed to go to the store yesterday". They use the present tense of the word instead of the past tense as they should. This has nothing to do with shortening things to type quicker, it's simply that they don't know any better.
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Yes, not knowing better is what made me start this thread. I don't like to have the thought that people make those mistakes not knowing they were actually mistakes. I do write "tho" instead of "thought" and I know it is wrong, for example.

As for "suppose to" and "supposed to", do they sound he same in spoken American English?
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pretty much so SG and may I commend you on your English as your second language.

Very good my friend.

Now when are you coming to the USA and become an American?
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Thanks man

If we get too technical (or rhetoric or formal, dunno what categorization/classification works here), I think my English is considered a foreign language, not second. For most Canadians, to name one, it is second. They learn, or rather acquire, English there as a second language. Here I learned it the extra hard way as an extra material. You have no idea how much trouble I had to learn it. Even now I'm seriously behind schedule in speaking. You would find out if we talk one day.

You know, I thought about moving somewhere else, including USA, but we're an extremely heavily family oriented culture here that it is not an easy choice to move. It's not just about direct family members like parents, it is about extended families too. If for example a cousin gets married, it is a crime if I don't attend some parties they hold or could use help with I tell ya (unless it is an urgent case like medical or education cases), and there are at least two I can count. There are several other major reasons too, but that's sooo much to talk about. Talk about complicated
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Sound like you have a strong family ties. Here they are scattered all over the US, all living their own lives.
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I of course did not mean to belittle family ties around the world with what I said. It is just that I think here it is kinda "too" strong (or maybe still tied to the old traditions too much?). Dunno really, it's just a case of its own. I respect how other people have it and wouldn't dare judge.
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