Originally Posted by foothead
That phone is quite old and pretty worthless now. But high end phones commonly run $600-700 if they aren't subsidized by your carrier.
that's the same most places, including the UK, the point is that your contract charge is generally higher than a pay as you go tariff because it pays for the phone as well.
it's a weird thing to get your head around that you don't actually own your phone.
But when you paid £50 for the handset on contract. You effectively only borrow the handset. the network covered the additional £450 of that £500 iphone to secure your custom.
so in the UK, you get a choice.
get a not locked phone for £500 (non-smartphones are a lot cheaper) and get a pay as you go sim card, or a sim only contract deal for around £10 - £15 per month.
get a locked phone, for around £50 - £100, and a contract charged at £20 - big money depending on what sort of benefits you want...
when I last upgraded my handset I found that I could get the iphone 4s, on contract for 18 months for £32 a month, (which 200 minutes of calls, unlimited text messages and 500 MB download data...) and the handset costs £90 (total cost over 18 months £666)
or I could get similar amounts of phone utilisation for £10 a month, but, I would need to buy a phone up front.
phone cost = £500, £10 contract charge for 18 months = £270 so total cost of £680.
so very little difference.
Originally Posted by berry120
I wonder whether this would be an illegal route for emergency call reasons. In the UK at least, you can place a 999 call on any network free of charge, which makes sense. Arbitrarily cut this down and you could sensibly claim companies are forfeiting emergency service coverage, which may not be currently illegal but I'd imagine (hope) would be a bigger incentive to ban this workaround too.
Moreover, I'd hope the law would come in the form of it being illegal for service providers to lock phones, rather than it being legal for us to unlock them (or both of course.) If they only support specific frequencies, this is still a prime example of locking, just on a lower level (locking at the physical hardware rather than the software / driver layer.)
it's a bit different in the US in the UK we use GSM/GPRS and for 3g we use wcdma
in the states there is less gsm coverage and much more CDMA coverage.
with a lot of UK phones, (GSM only) if you go to the states then you won't get a signal at all, as you don't have the radio hardware capable of transmitting/receiving CDMA.
so emergency or not, 911/999 type calls will not work unless there is a radio coverage that you can receive
additionally, even with phones like the iphone 4/4s with are dual radio CDMA/GPRS just having a phone doesn't mean that you can go to that country and use the network.
in Europe we're used to there being standards, I can go to France/Italy/Germany etc (and have) take my phone and expect it to work. and that's any phone.
conversely when I went to New york a few years ago my HTC wizard could pick up a GSM network so I could make calls, but I was completely unable to receive any data services.
Even if I had a CDMA capable phone, I wouldn't be registered to any carrier so I'd be unable to authenticate on the network...