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Old 01-27-2005, 03:41 PM   #21
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I heart Obama, he will be the first african american president, 2008 bitches, ms hate Bush, Hes so damned stupid, how the hell did he get re-elected, evangelicals, man They are a weird bunch.
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:41 PM   #22
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All of them are fools, ALL of them.... Schroeder (germany's Prime Minister) is a political genius with a great mind... Why can't we have more leaders like him?
Schroeder is an idiot and a fool. Bush is the one who is a political genius.. he managed to get an unprecedented amount of people voting for him, managed to take a huge amount of the minority vote and had more women voting for him then in the last election.

His lack of vocabulary? Your own post is very telling. Bush's vocabulary and speaking abilities are just fine. And the war in Iraq was right and just. Environment initiatives? He restricted the levels of arsenic in water by 70%. That's very good.
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I heart Obama, he will be the first african american president, 2008 bitches, ms hate Bush, Hes so damned stupid, how the hell did he get re-elected, evangelicals, man They are a weird bunch.
Obama is a crazy nut. I'm sorry that guy is a nutcase who will never get elected. The first african american president will be Condi Rice. Bush is so stupid? Is that how he got a record number of votes and gave one of the most memorable inaugural speeches? Evangelicals had little to do with it. The fact Bush got a huge amount of moderates is what counts.
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Umm, Schroeder (just for YOUR INFO!) increased Germany's infrastructure by 140% and increased its economy by well over 320%!!! He is a master of politics, and of economy... Do not insult people that you know nothing about Gian.. THX!
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Umm, Schroeder (just for YOUR INFO!) increased Germany's infrastructure by 140% and increased its economy by well over 320%!!! He is a master of politics, and of economy... Do not insult people that you know nothing about Gian.. THX!
No he didn't. Where did you get those numbers from? Thin air? That's real funny. I wrote a report on the desperate state of the German economy. They've spent several hundred billion on reunification, their unemployment has shot up to 12%, and their economy has been in stagnation since Schreoder took office. He is not a master of politics and has totally mismanaged the Germany economy. His plan to cut back on socialistic benefits is a start, but it is too little too late.

Do not insult people I know nothing about... understand I'm the one who is actually in college writing reports about these countries.
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hey, i an 15, Not the commander is cheif, obiously you hve not heard of the Clear Skies initiative, or the health forest iniutive,

Their masterful use of Orwellian 'doublespeak' lets them put a benevolent, positive, upbeat spin on policies that are anything but. They don't call cutting down the forest to 'save' it "Excuse To Let Massive International Logging Conglomerates Cut Down Endangered Forests Act". No, no. That would be too reality based (sort of like the show COPS!). Instead, they name it something happy, like Healthy Forests Initiative.

And the Bush Regime didn't call the invasion of Iraq "Operation Line The Pockets Of Our Buddies At Every Weapons Manufacturer And Every Multi-National Corporation Who Gave Money To The Bush Campaign (Including Dick Cheney's Company Who Pays Cheney To This Very Day)". No, no! First they scare the fuck out of us with endless references to Saddam "Insane" and his non-existent WMDs, and then they call the invasion which violated International and US Constitutional Law "Operation Iraqi Freedom”. Red, White, and Brainwashed Americans hear this misinformation repeated day after day, month after month, and think, "I want safety! If you can give me safety AND set some oppressed people free, I'm for it! If Saddam is gonna nuke our ass, nuke 'em first! Besides, doesn't that oil under their sand belong to us anyway?"

So we've got a population that wants, by almost a two-thirds majority or more, clean air, land, and water; believes in a woman's right to choose; doesn't want tax cuts if they will hurt Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, and a Regime that wants to pollute like crazy, tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies, and cut or end programs like Social Security, Federal Student Loans, and Affirmative Action while running up a huge deficit because of tax cuts for rich people! Is anyone else feeling like their head is going to explode?
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Old 01-27-2005, 04:36 PM   #27
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obiously you hve not heard of the Clear Skies initiative, or the health forest iniutive,
I'm a political science major. An american government major to be exact.

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Their masterful use of Orwellian 'doublespeak' lets them put a benevolent, positive, upbeat spin on policies that are anything but. They don't call cutting down the forest to 'save' it "Excuse To Let Massive International Logging Conglomerates Cut Down Endangered Forests Act". No, no. That would be too reality based (sort of like the show COPS!). Instead, they name it something happy, like Healthy Forests Initiative.
Healthy forest iniatitive is to get rid of dead trees that are a big fire risk. It is quite good and is to reduce the risk of fires. Orwellian doublespeak how funny.. you should recheck your beliefs.

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And the Bush Regime didn't call the invasion of Iraq "Operation Line The Pockets Of Our Buddies At Every Weapons Manufacturer And Every Multi-National Corporation Who Gave Money To The Bush Campaign (Including Dick Cheney's Company Who Pays Cheney To This Very Day)". No, no! First they scare the fuck out of us with endless references to Saddam "Insane" and his non-existent WMDs, and then they call the invasion which violated International and US Constitutional Law "Operation Iraqi Freedom”. Red, White, and Brainwashed Americans hear this misinformation repeated day after day, month after month, and think, "I want safety! If you can give me safety AND set some oppressed people free, I'm for it! If Saddam is gonna nuke our ass, nuke 'em first! Besides, doesn't that oil under their sand belong to us anyway?"
What a bunch of illogic. Let me point out what is wrong with this, if Cheney really had something to do with this.. why did haliburton get denied any part in Iraq? So please spare me. And please spare me about WMDs. Saddam had them and I believe he sent them to Syria, to help the baathist government there. So please, give me a break. Saddam was responsible for murdering two miollion people. How many more millions would it take for someone like you to support the war. You are nuts. You are not thinking about the reality. The invasion was legally required by resolution 1441. Again I know what I'm talking about because I happen to study this topic every damn day. You need to seriously examine your own beliefs.

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So we've got a population that wants, by almost a two-thirds majority or more, clean air, land, and water; believes in a woman's right to choose; doesn't want tax cuts if they will hurt Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, and a Regime that wants to pollute like crazy, tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies, and cut or end programs like Social Security, Federal Student Loans, and Affirmative Action while running up a huge deficit because of tax cuts for rich people! Is anyone else feeling like their head is going to explode?
Most of the US population wants tax cuts. Again you don't really understand what you are talking about. the Bush adminstration launched environment initiatives that have bene proven to help (70-80% reduction in levels of arsenice and industrial waste). Again you need to look at the facts. The Pell Grant has consistently went up during the Bush adminstration. Cut or end programs like social security? Bush isn't going to end social security but reform it. Affirmative Action is a joke. And what huge deficit? It was slashed in half by the FAO. So please spare us this rhetoric.. a bunch of anti-bush crap that has no evidence to it.
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Old 01-27-2005, 04:55 PM   #28
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Look another debate in a thread that shouldnt have one, if you want to have a political debate, which I tried and believe me with Giancarlo waiting to kill everyones opinions its not a good idea, but dont ruin this thead which seems like fun plllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeasssssssssse.

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Old 01-27-2005, 05:00 PM   #29
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Hasnt George Bush just increased the US defecit to like 500 billion. Certainly a master of the economy that man.
Bush hasn't increased the deficit. That's a natural economic occurrance. The deficit has been around forever. It is natural. The economy is booming right now by the way.

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Look Gian I cant be bothered arguing with you its a waste of energy because your so stubborn, I even edited the post. Alright I dont care!
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