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Old 01-12-2004, 02:27 PM   #21
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Do you. You have a site?
Nope, no site, but there are plenty of Image Hosting Companies on the net. You've even got Lycos, that are crap for Websites and really good for Hotlinking (which your not supposed to do, but hey, who cares). You know Proboards right? All you have to do on those is fill in the URL of the pic you want as an Avatar and bingo, you have an Avatar. Is there a way you could enable C. Avatars by the user providing the link?
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Yeah I think there is that option somewhere. I will have a look and try it. Have you got an avatar in mind?
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I'll have a look through my hosted pics and see what i can find

BTW - have you considered my proposal about signatures yet? Cos i have one in mind ...
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As of Avatars, I personally wouldn't mind this:
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I finally found the piece of information, straight from the horses mouth, which was the basis of this Thread: READ AT YOUR OWN PERIL!

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The Hearings with the European regulators wrapped up Friday with two of Microsoft’s most vociferous detractors taking the stand to bolster charges of abuses in their two key markets: server software and multimedia players.
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It was server maker Sun Microsystems Inc. of Santa Clara, Calif., that filed the original complaint against Microsoft in Brussels five years ago. (MSNBC is a Microsoft-NBC joint venture.)
The other detractor, Seattle-based RealNetworks Inc., wants Microsoft’s media player divorced from the software giant’s operating systems. RealNetworks is Microsoft’s leading competitor in that realm and was founded by a former Microsoft vice president, Rob Glaser.
The company’s representatives were barred by EU rules from publicly discussing the substance of their testimony.
Regulators charge that Microsoft’s decision to tie its Media Player into Windows, which runs about 90 percent of desktop computers, “weakens competition on the merits, stifles product innovation and ultimately reduces consumer choice.”
They are threatening fines that could reach up to $3 billion, as well as a far-reaching order for Microsoft to strip the multimedia application from Windows to give rivals such as RealNetwork’s RealPlayer or Apple’s Quicktime more of a chance.
The EU Commission also wants Microsoft to disclose more software code to competitors in the market for low-end servers so they can make products that work as well with Windows as Microsoft’s own.
Microsoft’s foes argue that the potential long-term damage to the software industry and to future innovation posed by Microsoft’s persistent inclusion of new features in its operating systems — first there was the browser, and Internet search tools will be next — outweighs the advantages to consumers of such bundling.
“The thing that becomes difficult is Microsoft’s interests are often aligned with consumer interests,” said Ted Schadler, principal analyst at Forrester Research in Cambridge, Mass.
Microsoft spent a day and a half in Brussels defending its business practices, insisting that “significant consumer choice exists in the server operating systems and digital media markets today.”
It also renewed its pitch to settle the case, hoping to protect its core business strategy of constantly adding new features to its flagship product.
“Because Windows is such a high-volume product and its most profitable, any unexpected change that cuts into the profit margins of Windows is serious,” said Matt Rosoff, lead analyst at Directions on Microsoft, an independent research firm.
For rivals, money also is the key issue as they watch Microsoft eat into their market share, much as its Internet Explorer did to Netscape’s browser in the 1990s.
The EU’s decision is not due until next spring, unless Microsoft settles before then.
Ed Black, president of a trade group representing Microsoft critics that includes Sun, called on the Commission to stand firm.
“The only way a settlement could be possible is if somehow — which I think is unlikely and would be a horrible outcome — the EU would capitulate the way the U.S. and Justice Department did,” he said Thursday night after making his own presentation.
U.S. courts found Microsoft guilty of monopolistic behavior in the Internet browser case, but Microsoft later reached a settlement with the Bush administration in 2001 that allowed it to keep its Internet Explorer in Windows with some conditions.
Microsoft argues that the settlement — now being reviewed by a U.S. appellate court — should address Europe’s concerns. But the European Commission says its market surveys found Microsoft’s anticompetitive behavior continued.
EU officials have said they remain open to a settlement, but made no comment on the hearing.

HA! I personally believe that its like a young child running to its mummy for help when its been beaten at Mini-Golf by a superior child
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As of Avatars, I personally wouldn't mind this:
Hehe. Nice pic.

Dave - what ya think of these?

Avatar : (smaller of course - you should have a limit to how many Pixels can be used in a Avatar, and the pic looks half decent whatever size you have it in.

Signature : ( I thought this one would raise a few eyebrows )
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See, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN! It's just, 'oh, mummy, he did that!'


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Money again! Money, Money, Money! Microsoft cares not for money: they make litterally £3-4 Billion each Quarter, you know where most of that goes? It goes into the free stuff microsoft gives us every second - MSN.com, MSNBC, MSDN, they all have subscriptions but generally nobody has them - but they keep them going, they also put a great deal of money into upgrading software and development so that they can make more money next quarter and then put more into design and etc etc etc and so on!

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Now this is just silly! I have 5 media players on my Computer, 7 on my previous one - WMP, RealPlayer, MusicMatch, Quicktime, Divx Player, Winamp, Power DVD, and some P2P ones. Each has its own merits - I like DP for watching films that I have downloaded and Divx's, I like PDVD for watching DVDs, I like MusicMatch for listening to music when I'm not on MSN, I like WMP for MPEGs and the Audio Writing Tools and listening Music while in MSN, I hate Quicktime - but use it for those kind of media files, Winamp is good for the ones that others don't play. Does this sound like, even with a Microsoft Freak who doesn't even abbreviate Microsoft to MS when writing it even if it was faster weakening competition! HA!
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A Althon supporter Kalthorn?
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While I have an Athlon, yes, but given the chance when Intel have a 64-Bit out I'd take that over the Athlon anyday! It was merely a technological decision to gett he Athlon - I needed a computer and would not have the money any other time so I could not wait; I was not going to get a 32 bit while a 64 bit was only £100 more with 120GB more Hard drive too, so I did it. Hopefully, I can get one early next year from Intel if I save oop enoof - we shall see!
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