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Old 06-15-2010, 04:37 PM   #11
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Karl Marx? You believe he had great ideas? Socialism is a great idea? Capitalism is the root of all evil? They seem to make sense but they DON'T WORK! So we just give people money that supposedly comes from the rich! Money for nothing! Yeah a great idea! We just print a bunch of paper and everyone has money! All great ideas! We just kill all the rich people and spread all their money! YAY!

THOSE IDEAS ARE THE STUPIDEST THINGS I HAVE EVER HEARD! THEY DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE! IN CAPITALISM PEOPLE HAVE THE CHANCE TO ADVANCE IN SOCIETY! LOOK AT RUSSIA! EVERYONE WAS THE SAME! THEY ALL LIVED IN GULAGS AND COULD BE KILLED FOR ANY REASON! A WONDERFUL IDEA ISN'T IT?

If Socialism/Marxism/Communism is so great why don't you move to someplace that has it! Try Cuba or China! You don't even have the freedom to use Google! Isn't that great! And that socialized health care, isn't it wonderful? You have to wait 12 months for cancer treatment, but everyone is treated the same! And if you disagree with the government you get run over by tanks! Yay!

Come on give me a break. These ideas don't make sense. The Former Soviet Union is a great example of this. You can't consume more than you produce. Besides, not everyone was the same. I don't think everyone lived in the Kremlin and had an elegant lifestyle. Only the people who were high up in the government actually had a great life. Everyone else were just slaves working in a failing system.
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:01 PM   #12
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^ How fitting that your avatar is an USA flag.

edit: The ideas are excellent, the execution is poor.
edit2: Try not to bring back old threads.
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^ How fitting that your avatar is an USA flag.
Yes, because I believe that the Founding Fathers believed in Capitalism because they thought it would work. Marxism throws out our Constitution which would practically create the end of America as it is now, and how the Fathers envisioned it. (God Bless America)
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Not trying to put a wrench in your spokes here Warren and not saying that I don't love my country but do you really feel the current state of this country is how our founding fathers envisioned it either?
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:08 PM   #15
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Sure. Why not?
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You know I fought and bled for this country... and it was allllll bullshit. All of it. Everything they fed me about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction, Al Qaeda being behind 9/11... all of it just horse shit. I would actually love socialized medicine.. seriously, that would rock. I personally have all my health care taken care of by the VA so I get somewhat socialized medicine and it's fantastic! Never pay a dime, which is the way it should be. Capitalists are so afraid that adopting ideas from other forms of government will eventually be the downfall of capitalism but in reality, it's just an improvement. You take the good from all shitty and you get some pretty good shitty.

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Not trying to put a wrench in your spokes here Warren and not saying that I don't love my country but do you really feel the current state of this country is how our founding fathers envisioned it either?
Actually I do agree with you. All the backroom deals and stuff that occurs in Washington actually is against what our fathers envisioned. However, I would take a somewhat flawed Capitalist society over a terrible Socialist society.
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Just look at our nation's history. You think all these backroom deals are new to American politics? Think again...
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True, but could we expect something better from socialism/marxism/communism?
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Probably not, but if you took all the good parts out of them.. *cough* like I said *cough* then you may have somewhat of a functioning government.
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