Go Back   Computer Forums > Welcome To Computer Forums .org > Social Lounge | Off Topic
Click Here to Login
Join Computer forums Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-28-2010, 06:01 PM   #31
Site Team
 
berry120's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England, UK
Posts: 3,425
Default Re: improve the ipad

There's one big reason why I think the ipad doesn't stand a great chance of taking off.

Let's look back at the iphone - it was great because it trounced all available competition at the time. It was a few years before android caught up and started to offer a viable alternative, by which point every other person seemed to have an iphone anyway! I thought it was a brilliant idea at the time - and yes, it's enjoyed a great success.

What about the ipod? Again, the MP3 players available at the time weren't really marketed at consumer use, and those that were were ugly things that were hidden away in a corner. Most people were still using portable CD players. The Ipod completely turned that around, and again while you had other offerings following a few years afterwards, they weren't necessarily superior and the ipod had established itself by the time they came out anyway.

Fast forward to the ipad. And compare its specs to these beauties, all due to come out sometime in the near future. Quite frankly, they're pretty much all better...

I'm still not convinced the whole tablet thing will take off at all to be honest. It seems like people are trying to find problems they can apply the solution too rather than the other way round, and that very rarely works. If they do take off though, I don't think apple will take the crown with their ipad - at least not this generation of it.
__________________

berry120 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 06:17 PM   #32
Golden Master
 
Kage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 13,873
Send a message via MSN to Kage
Default Re: improve the ipad

MP3 players are better by other manufacturers, but because Apple has now stood ground as having the tech to have, and every person that goes gaga over fashion, has an Apple product (be it an Iphone or an Ipod), I won't be at all surprised if it does take off. I am not saying thats how everyone thinks, but the magority of people you ask get Apple products because their friends have them. Theres no thinking involved.

You know people are going to buy it, purely for the name
__________________

__________________
Abit IP35 Pro / Q6600 G0 / Zalman 9700 / 8800GTS 640mb / 4x 2GB Corsair XMS / X-FI Xtreme M / 1x 1TB / Antec 900 / Logitech Z-5500 / Samsung 20inch
Kage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2010, 06:31 PM   #33
Fully Optimized
 
~Darkseeker~'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Welwyn Garden City, United Kingdom
Posts: 2,494
Default Re: improve the ipad

quotes from around the internet:

"its a big iphone you cant make calls with"

"its a mac, but easier to break and harder to work with"

"tablet PCs are a solution without a problem"

"16 GB computer? back to the ninties"

"atleast netbooks can multitask"
__________________
EVGA SLI Micro Z68 // Intel i5-2500k @ 4.4GHz // 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz // Overclocked ASUS GTX 660 Ti // Corsair Carbide SPEC-03 // Kingston Hyper-X 120GB // 2TB WD Green + 500GB WD Black
#JC4PM
~Darkseeker~ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 02:41 AM   #34
Omnicide now.
 
foothead's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: My own personal hell
Posts: 10,014
Default Re: improve the ipad

What ever happened to the android tablet people were talking about a while back? I figured it would be something like this, except it would actually be reasonable to use because android is a much more customizable OS and I'm sure google would give it pretty much full desktop OS functionality.
foothead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 04:44 AM   #35
Site Team
 
berry120's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England, UK
Posts: 3,425
Default Re: improve the ipad

Quote:
What ever happened to the android tablet people were talking about a while back? I figured it would be something like this, except it would actually be reasonable to use because android is a much more customizable OS and I'm sure google would give it pretty much full desktop OS functionality.
Have a look at my post at the top of the page!
berry120 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 05:27 AM   #36
Site Team
 
root's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,004
Default Re: improve the ipad

Quote:
Originally Posted by berry120 View Post
There's one big reason why I think the ipad doesn't stand a great chance of taking off.

Let's look back at the iphone - it was great because it trounced all available competition at the time. It was a few years before android caught up and started to offer a viable alternative, by which point every other person seemed to have an iphone anyway! I thought it was a brilliant idea at the time - and yes, it's enjoyed a great success.


Fast forward to the ipad. And compare its specs to these beauties, all due to come out sometime in the near future. Quite frankly, they're pretty much all better...
rewind a little there...
2002, apple registered trade marks for iphone.
2007 the iphone was actually released.

five years in development and it was entirely lacking from the start in the first gen, I mean it didn't support 3g, blue tooth, multimedia messages. hasn't had proper gps until 3g versions either, (2008)

yet windows mobile phones in 2003 supported all of these things. I saw windows mobile phones with built in gps in 2005... -before the iphone was even announced... in 2005 my windows mobile phone had stereo speakers as well. (and media messaging)... in fact it would do everything that the iphone I have now (3gS) does, the only exception being the multi touch feature.


the iphone isn't the most popular phone because it's brilliant, or revolutionary, or has loads of features, or even loads of apps, because windows mobile phones have had all of these for ages...

the reason that the iphone succeeded is the same reason that the ipod succeeded, and it'll be the same reason that the ipad will likely succeed, apple are very (very) good at marketing.

has it not occurred to anyone that since Apple started using intel processors they are essentially selling a standard PC, (not even a high spec one), running a free OS, (BSD), just packaged in a shiny box with an apple logo on it. and they are charging between 2 to 3 times as much as it'd cost to buy a similar machine and install BSD...

most of apples products have no intrinsic added value in their function or use compared to competition... they are just extraordinarily well marketed.

http://mashable.com/2010/01/27/apple-ipad-downsides/
__________________
I didn’t fight my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian…
Im sick of people saying 'dont waste paper'. If trees wanted to live, they'd all carry guns.
"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; The inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."
root is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 08:18 AM   #37
Site Team
 
berry120's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: England, UK
Posts: 3,425
Default Re: improve the ipad

Good points root - I'd agree that a lot of apple's success so far has been down to brilliant marketing. Would I be correct in assuming then from your post you'd say if the ipad does succeed it'll be on marketing prowess rather than the device itself actually being good?

I do wonder though whether this will be enough this time. You could say the same with tablets that were released ages ago - they never caught on. But this time around there's a whole new generation of tablets geared to launch at the same time as the iphone; they could potentially get a lot more attention this way.
berry120 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 01:37 PM   #38
Daemon Poster
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 732
Default Re: improve the ipad

if the iPad has OSX on it then it would all of a sudden be a few hundred dollars more expensive because apple is looking to make money off of apps. if you have no choice to get free productivity software then you have to get iWork from the app store. same with games, if you cant play flash games online then you have to get games from the app store. steve jobs even said during his keynote that there are over 120,000 credit card enabled accounts on itunes. thats who his target crowd is.
__________________
My Desktop: Intel Core i7-970@4.5GHz 1.39V Stable--ASUS P6X58D-E--6GB Supertalent Chrome (Elpida Hyper) 1800MHz 6-6-6-24--eVGA GTX 580--Intel 510 120GB--WD 2TB Caviar Black--Silverstone RV03-EK Supreme HF w/ Black Ice GTX 480--Koolance VID-NX580

My Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.4GHz--4GB DDR2 800MHz RAM--NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT-320GB hard drive
shozzking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 01:55 PM   #39
Fully Optimized
 
~Darkseeker~'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Welwyn Garden City, United Kingdom
Posts: 2,494
Default Re: improve the ipad

i found some pretty good spoofs from the past.

__________________
EVGA SLI Micro Z68 // Intel i5-2500k @ 4.4GHz // 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1866MHz // Overclocked ASUS GTX 660 Ti // Corsair Carbide SPEC-03 // Kingston Hyper-X 120GB // 2TB WD Green + 500GB WD Black
#JC4PM
~Darkseeker~ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2010, 01:56 PM   #40
Fully Optimized
 
mikee286's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,130
Default Re: improve the ipad

I don't think HTML code works on this forum
__________________

__________________
AMD Phenom II x6 1045T @ 2.7 Ghz, 8Gb Corsair Vengeance Ram, crucial M500 240GB SSD, 500GB WD
1.5 TB Seagate, XFX Radeon 6670 1Gb GDDR5, Windows 7 Professional 64bit
mikee286 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0