Thanks guys, I expected members woudn't be bothered, but how about the families, parents, grandparents & such?, in the papers the last Friday 13th, a guy walked round a ladder, not because he was superstititous, a guy on the ladder had a pot of paint, stepped into the road & was knocked down by a car & broke his leg, on another occasion, a women stroked a so-called "lucky" black cat, it clawed her hand, which promptly ballooned, & she had to have anti-biotics & a tetanus jab.