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Old 10-10-2012, 06:22 PM   #11
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I personally have always been on the fence about religion and politics, I have my own beliefs about religion but when you talk to someone who doesn't believe in what you do there is always an issue, and there will always be an issue if you are friends, because sooner or later it gets brought up again and again.
I love science and technology and I understand more of science and technology than, the world was created 2000 years ago, the story does not fit well with science and what science tells us.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:57 PM   #12
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I love science and technology and I understand more of science and technology than, the world was created 2000 years ago, the story does not fit well with science and what science tells us.
Just so you know (and this is no way a debate or trying to start one), not all religious followers believe the world is just a few thousand years old. In fact, the bible never states how old it really is.

I respect your belief and your right to practice as such. I only wanted to inform you that not everyone believes that way. :-)
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Old 10-10-2012, 07:54 PM   #13
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I totally understand, I was just saying you were right
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:01 PM   #14
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Regardless of your beliefs and personal opinions (this isn't about that so please don't take it there) this would be a pretty cool piece of history to own.

Ebay's auctioning off Einstein's "God Letter" for $3 Million. It's privately owned and is stored in a controlled environment. There are quotes from the letter in the story.



That's a pretty strong belief. Rest of the STORY here.
Just one mans interpretation and opinion....interesting reading, I never knew he made those remarks but not surprised.
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Old 10-10-2012, 08:04 PM   #15
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only if i had had the money, it would be something very nice to have.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:20 PM   #16
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My opening sentence was also a 'no religious debate' warning.
That's kind of an impossible request though. You can't link an article that Einstein wrote about religion as a whole and then say this is not about religion. I completely understand that your intent was to capitalize on the historic value and proposed monetary value placed on the item... but this is one of, if not the, most influential intellects of our time talking about a highly debated topic. In my mind, that's equivalent to linking an article about how cotton candy is made and flavored, but warning posters to not mention anything about cotton candy, the just machinery used in the making. Not impossible in that scenario, but given how strongly people feel about their faith and the importance of the author, the request is a little prohibiting.

On the other hand, discussing religion in a healthy and productive manner is usually just as impossible. Like two dogs arguing about what the color green looks like. They both have an idea in their head that is completely without fact and they try to justify their opinion to the other.

Not attacking you in any way, just pointing out the extreme difficulty in trying to type anything in this thread while following the suggested and requested posting outline.
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That's kind of an impossible request though. You can't link an article that Einstein wrote about religion as a whole and then say this is not about religion. I completely understand that your intent was to capitalize on the historic value and proposed monetary value placed on the item... but this is one of, if not the, most influential intellects of our time talking about a highly debated topic. In my mind, that's equivalent to linking an article about how cotton candy is made and flavored, but warning posters to not mention anything about cotton candy, the just machinery used in the making. Not impossible in that scenario, but given how strongly people feel about their faith and the importance of the author, the request is a little prohibiting.

On the other hand, discussing religion in a healthy and productive manner is usually just as impossible. Like two dogs arguing about what the color green looks like. They both have an idea in their head that is completely without fact and they try to justify their opinion to the other.

Not attacking you in any way, just pointing out the extreme difficulty in trying to type anything in this thread while following the suggested and requested posting outline.
As long as people remain civil, a debate is fine I think. But you make a good point.

On topic, I think it's interesting, this whole letter. But Einstein wasn't a specialist in this area, so to me his letter isn't that significant. His opinion is interesting, but just because he understood physics incredibly well, doesn't mean he understands religion any better than Joe Blow down the road.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:50 PM   #18
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Of course we can have a discussion about a writing of Albert Einsteins with out getting into
an all out brawl about the topic of the letter. All we have to do is choose too. Simple.
The letter in and of it's self is a very cool thing just because of the person who wrote it.
Not because of the topic that is discussed.
Discussing anything in an a healthy and productive manner can be done with ANY Topic.
One prerequisite though is that the people having the discussion have the ability to discuss ANY Topic
in a civil manner and in the end agree to disagree.

My Uncle thinks Eisenstein was wrong about 186,282 miles per second (Speed of Light) being the
universal speed limit. And he has yet to ARGUE with anyone about it because the people
that he discuss the subject understand it is a basic exchange of ideas and information.
Not a competition and not an indoctrination
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:39 AM   #19
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I don't see the problem with arguing about religion.

I put it right up there with discussions of politics, drugs, intel vs AMS microsoft vs Apple.


tedious, annoying conversations where everyone talks, no-one listens, until the thread dies on it's own...

it's happened before, it'll happen again, and again, and again, and again...
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