Originally Posted by NikonGuy
And Donetao, I practice throwing knives... So on a very very technical term, I could very technically bring a technical knife to a gun fight. lol :P
let us know how that works out for you
Personally, I've never really seen the fascination with self defence past a childhood hobby.
in my experience the older a person gets the more diminishing the returns. until in the end it's more of a dis-service than something allowing personal growth.)
young children (<12) gain self confidence, co-ordination and athletic skill practising martial arts.
After that teenagers gain athletic skill and co-ordination, but really, most self confidence issues are going to be pretty deep seated by the time you're out of first school.
And by the time you're an adult the only thing you really gain is exercise, or as a social activity.
I have one friend who has been practising Karate for around 2 decades now.
he is absolutely convinced that he is some how fitter because of it, (whereas he's actually quite unfit because when you over eat and only spend a couple of hours a week play fighting you do not stay fit.)
he's convinced that somehow he'd fare better in a fight than any other person, (despite the fact that the guy has never been in a "real" fight in all his life, instead he's been in Karate tournaments, with bells and buzzers and bows and referees, where everything is expected, and despite the fact that most people who are the kind of people who actually fight in a bar are actually pretty experienced at fighting, and don't follow rules. they've probably been "actual fighting" in violent situations for as long as this guy has been "play fighting" with mats and a coach and the ability to call time and stop.)
(I guess as pointed out above the difference between calm target shooting and learning how to shoot under stress)
Of course, that's not to say that it is completely useless. just that my experience of most teenagers studying martial arts is that the genuinely think that they are the Karate kid, and long term studiers don't seem to grow out of that attitude.
That is not to say that it is a waste of time. but in my own experience, most people who pay for self defence classes probably end up over confident, and therefore in more danger.