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Old 11-26-2006, 10:19 AM   #31
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Brian, The RTM is the actual stable version. All they're doing now is the box drawing and DVD drawing...so people like you and I will be attrtacted and that box will send subliminal messages like, Buy me! Buy me!

That's how they gain money.




CBFryman, the way Vista functions is by using a lot of features, that some of us, find useless. That's why it's slow.

On the other hand, I'd be willing to try Ubuntu again, but should I use Breesy Badger or the newer one? That question, UK31337 can answer in no time, I'm sure
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Old 11-26-2006, 10:20 AM   #32
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Have you used vista? Have you even seen a vista computer running? No.

Vista needs a ton of processing power, a ton of memory, and it's features suck and are as annoying as the bubbles from service pack 2 on XP. I didnt have Major problems running old programs on Vista but I also barely met the minimum requirements so any slowness wouldnt have been noticed anyway.
well.. judging from your sig.. you probably shouldn't have been attempting to run vista on a p3.. maybe the stripped down basic version, but you can't expect the aero features to perform smoothly with that type of processing power. also... have you used a final version not beta of vista? or seen a final again.. not beta version running? vista isn't a terrible os, if someone was given the choice between a free copy of vista and a free copy of xp, i'm thinking that the majority of people would try out vista... granted, their computers meet the system requirements.
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Old 11-26-2006, 11:04 AM   #33
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WIth all the hype in regards to Vista, lets not forget (Office 12) or Office 2007. It's scheduled to have the same release time as Vista in January 30th. They will be out at the end of November (this month) along with Vista, but for education and businesses. Darn.
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Old 11-26-2006, 05:35 PM   #34
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Locking the amount of hardware you can change before needing a new license is putting me off
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Is Apple or Linus Torvalds paying your for this thread? Sure, Vista sucks right now because of compatability issues, but just wait. That's what I'm doing. I'm expecting to use XP for another two years before I switch over to Vista.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:01 AM   #36
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Hopefully by that time, Windows won't have a new OS out by then . They're already working on a successor to Vista and expected date of release is like 2009-2010. I'm going to get Vista Ultimate next year for sure though, but not initially until they get most of the kinks worked out.
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Locking the amount of hardware you can change before needing a new license is putting me off
agreed! seems like vista has an awful lot of limitations. I'm sticking to XP while I can and once it's discontinued it's no more microsoft for me. Regardless I'm still getting an apple
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Actually they're loosening up. Now you can use the same copy of Vista over and over just as long as you uninstall the previous copy. So you can have one copy at all times, but you can uninstall and reinstall the same license on another computer.
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i wasnt planning on getitng it any ways but Thank you
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true, but doesn't apple change their OS architecture every few years instead of doing what microsoft does by using the same thing for awhile such as using DOS for 95/98/ME and NT for 2000 and XP? I could be wrong but I believe I read that somewhere....
that's a little misleading...

there was DOS, windows 1, 2, 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, 98SE and ME all based on DOS, that took the DOS platform from the 80's to the turn of the milleniuum

during the latter half of the 90's microsoft invented the NT platform, it went through a public release of 3.5, and 4,
but since NT wasn't as catchy as the year names they named NT5, windows 2000, and thus gained penetration into the home user market with their business platform.
after 2000 came windows XP (in october 2001), this was after there were several court casesregarding microsofts new opperating systems comming out at such speed that it was either expensive or impossible for everyone to upgrade to the latest, (releasing entier new systems on practically a yearly basis).

since october 2001 there have been no new opperating systems, the next scheduled release will be windows Vista in january 2007.

In the same period of time..., (since 2001), the (most commercial) linux release, (I'm going to say redhat) has gone through versions 7, 8, 9, fed1, fed2, fed3, fed4 and is now on fed5.
(also since 9 there has also been enterprise versions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (total of 13 new releases in 5 years! -though that's misleading since fed core and enterprise are *almost* the same).

in that same time Mac has also seen Mac OS9, and X (two major releases), but has hidden the fact that OSX constantly changes by releaing lots of submajor versions,
Lepard, tiger etc...)...

There have been no major changes to the underlying technologies to the Linux core, (else it wouldn't be Linux anymore, as linux is named after the core that it's based around...

However you're right that microsoft have shifted from DOS technologies, to solely NT cores.
this is more for the purposes of stability and user support, (only working on one system at one time, rather than running two core products side by side).

You're wrong that Apple havn't changed anything.
Apple abandoned their own core in favour of adopting a Unix core,
Apple also abandoned their own hardware platform that all their software was written for, in favour of adopting an intel processor. -and no I never did have time to go and laugh in the faces of all those people who said that PowerPC were faster than intels, and are now saying that intels are faster than powerPC.

For the person that said that Microsoft have a much larger userbase this is true...
and the idea of hardware doesn't actually matter so much anymore...
a big part of the reason that people used to get BSOD's all the time was that drivers written by third parties would access memory that it wasn't meant to access, (illegal opperation).

with this invention of windows NT also came the invention of protected memory space, that helped a lot to try to clear up the mess of sloppy third party drivers.

with the advernt of windows XP also came the idea of privellagd hardware levels. now only level 0 drivers have direct access to hardware, that's why old programs to control things like the parallel port, or old midi programs that controlled the gameport stopped working under XP, cause they wern't allowed access to the hardware anymore.

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With regards Vista,

TBH, whilst I could get it at home, (I work for a place where staff are licensed to use microsoft products at home when there is a campus license). I probably won't...
there is nothing really new that I want, a lot of the features that I've read about seem more like tack than anything else, basically it seems more like bloatware than anything else...
I nuderstand why a lot of these things are available, but personally, I just need an opperating system, as in a system that allows me to run programs,
I don't need a DRM management system,
I don't need power tools,
I don't need fancy desktop isometric views.
I don't need app running protection.
basically.
I don't need Vista... if it wasn't for the fact that it was so insecure and no longer supported, I'd still be happily using windows 98.
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