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Old 05-12-2017, 02:46 AM   #1
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Want a better insight of a terrible national broadband network being built that is using out of date 19th/20th century technology that is supposed to set us up for the 21st century then look no further. The original plan was to be an all fibre network but then a charge of Government in 2013 changed it all and started the biggest mess.

How Australia Bungled Its $36 Billion High-Speed Internet Rollout - NYTimes

New York Times skewers Australia’s NBN as a ‘costly internet bungle’ and a ‘cautionary tale’ - News Corp

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I hadn't realized Australia was a communist country.
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Yeah may aswell be. The whole reason the NBNCo company was created by the government is because none of the big ISP's would make an open access wholesale network. The lead ISP Telstra which used to be government owned proposed an FTTN network on the condition that they didn't have to share with other ISP's but the government's competition and consumer regulator said no so Telstra abandoned it.

So pretty it's a big mess. You may know Rupert Murdoch well he is a big Liberal Party donor and he has influenced the change of the rollout once the Liberal government came in because he owned a cable tv network that half owns a cable/HFC network.
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Obama tried making the US communist with his health crap. I'll be glad when that's gone and over with and I am not forced against my will to participate in it any longer. You can't even file taxes without a penalty if you aren't subscribed.
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What mine look like:
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What mine look like:
Wish mine was that good....
My pings are at 618ms, down is 28.71mbps and up is 194kbps. Will be glad when my contract is done.....
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Atleast I've have a decent upload.

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NBNCo offers 5 speed tiers to ISP or as it calls them retailers. So you have 12/1, 25/5, 25/10, 50/20 & 100/40 which what we are on over FTTP so we got lucky. There is higher speed tiers offered by NBNCo but none of the ISP's/retailers have made them commercially available because of what's called the CVC charge where the ISP's/retailers have to pay a certain for every user it has for bandwidth at one of 100 or so points of connectivity around the country for ISP's to hook into the NBN network and that's what makes offering better speeds unviable.

This is an explanation of it NBN: Dimension-based CVC explained - jxeenoâ„¢ blog.
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There is higher speed tiers offered by NBNCo but none of the ISP's/retailers have made them commercially available because of what's called the CVC charge where the ISP's/retailers have to pay a certain for every user it has for bandwidth at one of 100 or so points of connectivity around the country for ISP's to hook into the NBN network and that's what makes offering better speeds unviable.
I love how this sentence starts off relatively normal, then gradually descends into a state of complete incomprehensibility.


You might want to rephrase.
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That's probably the best way it can be explained.
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Huh? What is this supposed to say?
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That's probably the best way it can be explained.
Please take this as constructive criticism: Almost every time you attempt to express a complex idea, your writing becomes nigh incomprehensible. You cannot string together an indefinite number of clauses, particularly when doing so without regard for punctuation and proper transitions. These run-on sentences may make sense to you, but nobody, regardless of reading ability, can understand them without significant analysis. If you want your writing to be understood, you need to, at the very least, try to maintain some semblance of coherent sentence structure.

To condense it into a simple rule: When in doubt, break sentences up whenever possible.
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Huh? What is this supposed to say?
This explains it better

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CVC is a virtual charge imposed by nbn to service providers in order to bring traffic from the “NBN network” to the service provider network (and vice versa). This bandwidth is shared amongst all of the users on the same provider’s network aggregated at the 121 NBN points of interconnect.
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He's talking about nodes.
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He's talking about nodes.
Yeah that comes into it but not what last post was about it.
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Man I'm slow.
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Slow like a node?
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Depends on how many are using it.
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