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Old 03-23-2005, 03:04 AM   #41
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http://www.military.com/NewContent/0..._XM8%2C00.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...nd/m8-oicw.htm

"The XM8 Future Combat Rifle is intended to replace existing M4 Carbines and select 5.56mm x45 weapons in the US Army arsenal beginning as early as the fourth quarter of FY05.

In October 2002 ATK (Alliant Techsystems) was awarded a $5 million contract modification from the U.S. Army Armament Research, Development, and Engineering Center (ARDEC), Picatinny, N.J., to develop the new XM8 Lightweight Assault Rifle. ATK Integrated Defense, Plymouth, Minn., and teammate Heckler and Koch, Oberndorf, Germany, will support the rapid development program, which will investigate the potential of the XM8 as the lightweight assault rifle for the Army's Objective Force."

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I wouldn't like to be those stupid iraqi insurgents.
Oh yesss...I would definately hate to be an Iraqi Insurgent.
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I will track down videos of the weapon in action. You can fire the rifle with one hand...
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85 Iraqi rebels killed in a clash...

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"BAGHDAD, Iraq (March 23) - U.S. and Iraqi forces raided a suspected guerrilla training camp and killed 85 fighters, the single biggest one-day death toll for militants in months and the latest in a series of blows to the insurgency, Iraqi officials said Wednesday.

Politicians helping shape a postelection government expected within days said negotiators are considering a Sunni Arab as defense minister in a move aimed at bringing them into the political process - and perhaps deflate the insurgency they lead.

The U.S. military announced late Tuesday that its air and ground forces backed Iraqi commandos during a noontime raid on the suspected training camp near Lake Tharthar in central Iraq. Seven commandos died in fighting, the U.S. military said. It did not give a death toll for the militants.

Iraqi officials said Wednesday 85 insurgents died in the clash - the largest number killed in a single battle since the U.S. Marine-led November attack on the former militant stronghold of Fallujah left more than 1,000 dead. On Sunday, U.S. forces killed 26 attackers after an ambush south of Baghdad.

Also Wednesday, a mortar shell or rocket struck an elementary school in western Baghdad, killing at least one child and injuring three others, according to a police official who asked not to be identified out of fear of retribution by attackers."

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The US military has shown it is more then capable. But moreso this goes to credit to Iraqi Elite Army/Police troops... because they were spearheading the operation.

Just thought this was interesting.
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The US military has shown it is more then capable.

Fighting a few dozen thousand Iraqis is not a proof of capability.
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Fighting for two years with great success does show a proof of capability. Always negative are you? Always anti-america are you? America brought you microsoft.
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Fighting for two years with success shows man power and money; you're not fighting somebody even a tenth as good as you, you're fighting a few hundred rebels in a country with no naturally distinguishable features. If American fought the Chinese, Russians, Koreans, British, god even the French you'd start proving ability.

British Colonies in America would have brought me Microsoft, maybe not now because we wouldn't have had the technological growth of two World Wars but eventually.
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I never said anything about America fighting against the Chinese, Russians, Koreans, British, or French. The United States has done well in a desert conditions, that the French could never last in. The British has shown similiar distinguished ability.

British colonies in America wouldn't of brought you shit. Besides, both Britain and America are capitalist countries. If it wasn't for capitalism, you might aswell go to a cave.

You are excessively negative and wrong.,
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I never said anything about America fighting against the Chinese, Russians, Koreans, British, or French. The United States has done well in a desert conditions, that the French could never last in. The British has shown similiar distinguished ability.

British colonies in America wouldn't of brought you shit. Besides, both Britain and America are capitalist countries. If it wasn't for capitalism, you might aswell go to a cave.

You are excessively negative and wrong.,
I know you didn't. Desert conditions may be bad, but they're expected - its hardly something that's going to show ability. Its like a big manoeuvre with live rounds.


Yeah; but I'd feel a whole lot better with British North-America and Mexico than the United States, Mexico and Canada. And we wouldn't have had World Wars, nor probably a Spanish Civil War, or a Russian Revolution.
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I know you didn't. Desert conditions may be bad, but they're expected - its hardly something that's going to show ability. Its like a big manoeuvre with live rounds.
You aren't really thinking about what is needed.. the adminstrative tasks at this. This is why the Germans failed in WWII in North Africa. They had the military skills, but their adminstrative skills sucked (Rommel specifically).

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Yeah; but I'd feel a whole lot better with British North-America and Mexico than the United States, Mexico and Canada. And we wouldn't have had World Wars, nor probably a Spanish Civil War, or a Russian Revolution.
You're strange. The US is better then your country. We are more free. So it is better in this world that we have the US. So you are saying if the US wasn't around there wouldn't of been world wars? How stupid. WWI was caused by the Austrian/Hungarian Empire and Germany. WWII was caused by Germany. Not the US in either counts. If it wasn't for the US, you would be speaking German and ruled by nazis. The Spanish Civil war was caused by General Franco and the Germans, the Russians and communists. The Russian revolution was caused by internal problems in Russia itself.

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You aren't really thinking about what is needed.. the adminstrative tasks at this. This is why the Germans failed in WWII in North Africa. They had the military skills, but their adminstrative skills sucked (Rommel specifically).
They didn't have anything like the budget the American Military has; perhaps the Administration on the British part is a feat; but the American Military if far better funded and better equipt; administration in a situation like that should be there in the first place without any special point made if it is.

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You're strange. The US is better then your country. We are more free. So it is better in this world that we have the US. So you are saying if the US wasn't around there wouldn't of been world wars? How stupid. WWI was caused by the Austrian/Hungarian Empire and Germany. WWII was caused by Germany. Not the US in either counts. If it wasn't for the US, you would be speaking German and ruled by nazis. The Spanish Civil war was caused by General Franco and the Germans, the Russians and communists. The Russian revolution was caused by internal problems in Russia itself.

Again your nature truly shows..

There would have been wars; there would have been the cause of World War 1, but it wouldn't have sparked a World War because Germany wouldn't have been trying to keep up with the British Navy and Germany wouldn't have dared attack British Allies. Simply because of the vastly expanded resources Britain would have had with America; the huge Navy they would have had to protect America as well as the other Colonies, the man power resources and the gold resources.

Without World War 1 who knows... there wouldn't have been a World War 2, there may be a World War 1 afterwards but its doubtful. The only War I could invision could be between Britain and Japan over China, or more fighting against France.

The Russian Revolution wasn't planned until Marx said it should happen, which would have been years into the future. Without a Nazi Germany Franco wouldn't have won, and without a War between Germany and Austria and Britain, Russia and France there wouldn't have been a disgruntelled Hitler, or a Fascist movement, it would have been an Empire still :P
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