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Old 06-07-2009, 09:53 PM   #21
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Well their regime needs to end. Vile systems in place make that country a hell hole. I suppose you support it as well.

Ok... I'm going to point this out because you don't seem to get it..


Muz nor I Support the chinese government in what it is doing. We support cisco as a company because they are not at fault here. We believe in free speech all that good stuff.. But not what china is doing.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:02 PM   #22
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It would be a good thing if Cisco were out of business. Would allow other networking hardware manufacturers to compete fairly. Cisco is too big of a corporation and they have too much power over the industry. They are a monopoly.

The whole Chinese government issue is a violation of free speech rights. They are also really notorious for their human rights violations. Do you support these too?
dude you should go into politics once again you have failed to answer my question .
so i will ask it again
Due to your thoughts on cisco systems and its objectionable actions regarding the chinese firewall do you also therefore apply the same logic to US arms companies who build products soley for causing death damage and destruction or do you think that their use is down to the user of their product


The only reason cisco have such a monopoly over the networking industry is because they are good at what they do . so people deal with them because they know that .Probably why they where contracted to build the great firewall . They are a business thir sole purpose is to make money they have their corner of the market networking products and thats what they do they do not specialise in upholding the morality of the world be deciding who they deal with

China has no free speech rights thats the whole point there can be no such thing as free speech you cant allow everyone to say whatever the hell they want without there being any recourse for it . But what free speech rights are we talking about here , are we talking about the ones afforded to you under american law because i hate to break it to you but american law does not and will never apply in china two seperate jurisdictions presided over by completely differnet governments . As for human rights violations what gives america the right to dictate to any country about uman rights violations , americas past hasnt exactly been the best when it comes to issues of human rights either

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Well their regime needs to end. Vile systems in place make that country a hell hole. I suppose you support it as well.
funniest thing about that is that in fact the quality of life in many of the big chinese cities is very good and overall the whole countries standards of living are increasing
and the number of people below chinas pverty line is pretty low compared to other countries so the place is no longer a hell hole to live in
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._world_map.png
Take a look at this map i see in fact that china is the darkets blue meaning less than 10% of its poulation live below the poverty line whereas america most of europe etc is lighter blue meaning that the rate is 10-20%
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:16 PM   #23
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Will you stop bringing up the arms companies? Machine guns and routers are two completely different things.
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Will you stop bringing up the arms companies? Machine guns and routers are two completely different things.
so will you not be answering my question then
do you not find what arms companies do objectionable as well ?

yes machines guns and reouters are completely different things one is built soley for the purpose of death and destruction and the other is not and so by your logic surely arms companies are as bad as if not worse than cisco
so willyou not be answering my question then
do you not find what arms companies do objectionable as well ?
I mean lets look at another regine that i find objectionable , Zimbabwe there president mugabe drove out the white farmers using in cases milattry foce , surely by your logic it is the arms companies fault the milatry had the armament to fight against these white farmers
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Why do you keep going on about the arms companies? This is getting old as Dumbledore.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:33 PM   #26
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Why do you keep going on about the arms companies? This is getting old.
Because you will not answer my question
it is a completely valid point and question to yourself yet you cannot answer it , it is a simple yes or no answer you need to give do you find what they do objectionable? because at the moment i am simply applying your logic to the situation and that dictates that you do
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... It's not worth getting thrown in a cell and left to rot or get caned. They are serious about censorship.
So when in Rome...
My thoughts as well!

[edit] Monday 6/8/09, anyone see the front page of the Wall Street Journal today? [end edit]
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I would jump on the TOR network or this
https://www.jondos.de/en/jondonym

www.xerobank.com - and download the xbrowser to access the TOR network.
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