Go Back   Computer Forums > General Computing > Hardware
Click Here to Login
Join Computer forums Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-06-2008, 12:08 PM   #1
Fully Optimized
 
Zer0Cool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,599
Question WS Raptor & Raid 0 Questions.

Very soon (when Q9450 comes out) I will be building my 1st ULTIMATE gaming rig. I have decided to get 2 Raptors and set them to raid 0 (have no idea how to do it lol) I fond that there is Raptor & Raptor X, by the looks of it, performance is the same, only diff is the clear case. Is there any other distinguishments? If no, I guess Raptor X is the one for me.

Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM

OR

Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive – OEM

This raptors will run my OS and Games, I will also get one 500G or 1TB HDD for my movies/music..etc is this a wise choice? (I also currently have exturnal 500G HDD as a backup)

I have never build a computer b4, and I am very much looking forward to this build. Can someone please explain to me or provided me with a guide how to set my 2 raptors to raid 0 once I get my pc assembled. Thanks.

For people that are curious about my specs, here they are; (work in progress)

1st CASE = Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 Case OR COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 Evolution RC-830-KKN3-GP
2nd MOBO = DFI LP LT P35 T2R OR GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R OR DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS OR I might wait fore the X48, coz I heard current boards don’t have enough FSB for a good @
3rd CPU = Q9450 (45nm)
4th RAM = 4G CORSAIR XMS2 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066. (not sure et, I need to ask around what would be a good ram, I might just go with DDR3)
5th HDD = 2X Western Digital Raptor
6th VID CARD = 9800 X2 OR I might just get the GT or the GTS and just wait for the new line of chips to come out.
7th PSU = Something with 800W should be enough for me
8th CPU COOLER = Ultra-120 eXtreme OR IFX-14 OR Tuniq Tower
9th OS = Vista 64 bit Ultimate
__________________

__________________
- Asus P6T Deluxe v2 - Intel i7 920 @4Ghz 1.35v- Prolimatech HS - Cosmos S Case -
- ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ800 PSU
- ATI 5870 - G.SKILL 6GB DDR3 1600 - Razer Barracuda™ AC-1
- 120GB Crucial C300 SSD & 3X WD640AAKS HDD
- Dell 24" 2408WFP & 2407WFP-HC Monitor
Zer0Cool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 12:35 PM   #2
Golden Master
 
DJ-CHRIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,203
Send a message via AIM to DJ-CHRIS Send a message via MSN to DJ-CHRIS Send a message via Yahoo to DJ-CHRIS
Default Re: WS Raptor & Raid 0 Questions.

Yeah, the difference is the clear window. Two drives in Raid 0 really increases the chance of failure however, you loose one drive, the data on both is unreadable.
__________________

DJ-CHRIS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 12:48 PM   #3
Golden Master
 
Kage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 13,873
Send a message via MSN to Kage
Default Re: WS Raptor & Raid 0 Questions.

Yeah, which is why in my view, this isn't even worth the extra speed you get.

Going for RAID 5 (you'd need 3 or more hard drives however) is the next safest solution to RAID 0

RAID 1 is great also (what I'm running with), but you completly lose the capacity on one drive but if one drive fails, you simply insert another one in to connect the chain, and you don't lose any data, since it simply mirrors from one to the other.
Its faster at reading, but slower at writing.
__________________
Abit IP35 Pro / Q6600 G0 / Zalman 9700 / 8800GTS 640mb / 4x 2GB Corsair XMS / X-FI Xtreme M / 1x 1TB / Antec 900 / Logitech Z-5500 / Samsung 20inch
Kage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 12:49 PM   #4
Fully Optimized
 
Zer0Cool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,599
Default Re: WS Raptor & Raid 0 Questions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ-CHRIS View Post
Yeah, the difference is the clear window. Two drives in Raid 0 really increases the chance of failure however, you loose one drive, the data on both is unreadable.
Thanks Chris, Yes I know how raid works, i just dont know how to set it ip lol.

I have just found this on another forum;

"You can use two types of hard drives. If you go with the onboard controller: ata and serial ata. You can use SCSI if you use a special PCI controller, its faster (320Mb/s) and more reliable then sata, but it’s far more expensive, so it’s up to you what you want."

If I get the PCI controller how much of a transfer rate increase am i looking at? is it worth it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kage View Post
Yeah, which is why in my view, this isn't even worth the extra speed you get.

Going for RAID 5 (you'd need 3 or more hard drives however) is the next safest solution to RAID 0

RAID 1 is great also (what I'm running with), but you completly lose the capacity on one drive but if one drive fails, you simply insert another one in to connect the chain, and you don't lose any data, since it simply mirrors from one to the other.
Its faster at reading, but slower at writing.
Thanks Kage, I currently have raid 0 now, with 2 wd 7200rpm hdd, and I had this set up for almost 2 years now. I also have exturnal 500G hdd just incase. So I might take my chances with 2 wd raptors.
__________________
- Asus P6T Deluxe v2 - Intel i7 920 @4Ghz 1.35v- Prolimatech HS - Cosmos S Case -
- ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ800 PSU
- ATI 5870 - G.SKILL 6GB DDR3 1600 - Razer Barracuda™ AC-1
- 120GB Crucial C300 SSD & 3X WD640AAKS HDD
- Dell 24" 2408WFP & 2407WFP-HC Monitor
Zer0Cool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 01:15 PM   #5
Fully Optimized
 
LambOfGod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,783
Send a message via MSN to LambOfGod
Default Re: WS Raptor & Raid 0 Questions.

I would go with DDR3 for your build...

and Raid 0 and an additional Internal drive for storage (Seagate 7200.11 i would recommend)

I would get one of these for each drive as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835888105

Dropped my HD temps 10 degrees Celsius (been running for 8 months, and i cant hear them)

And here is a PSU that will be great for your build

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341002
__________________
LambOfGod- Q6600 g0 @ 3.06 Ghz * DFI LANPARTY DK X48-T2RS * Antec 1200 * Rosewill RP550 PSU * EVGA 8800 GTX Superclocked *WD 74GB Raptor * 2 X Seagate 1TB 7200.11 (RAID 1) * 4 GB DDR2 1022 GSKILL 5-5-5-13 * Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit/Windows XP 64 Bit
LambOfGod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 01:18 PM   #6
Golden Master
 
DJ-CHRIS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,203
Send a message via AIM to DJ-CHRIS Send a message via MSN to DJ-CHRIS Send a message via Yahoo to DJ-CHRIS
Default Re: WS Raptor & Raid 0 Questions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zer0Cool View Post
Thanks Chris, Yes I know how raid works, i just dont know how to set it ip lol.

I have just found this on another forum;

"You can use two types of hard drives. If you go with the onboard controller: ata and serial ata. You can use SCSI if you use a special PCI controller, its faster (320Mb/s) and more reliable then sata, but it’s far more expensive, so it’s up to you what you want."

If I get the PCI controller how much of a transfer rate increase am i looking at? is it worth it?
You hard drives are SATA, not SCSI so you cannot use a SCSI controller. You could see some very very nice hard drive bandwidth increases if you were to use a high end SATA RAID card, however these can cost a pretty penny.
DJ-CHRIS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 01:43 PM   #7
Fully Optimized
 
Zer0Cool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,599
Default Re: WS Raptor & Raid 0 Questions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LambOfGod View Post
I would go with DDR3 for your build...

and Raid 0 and an additional Internal drive for storage (Seagate 7200.11 i would recommend)

I would get one of these for each drive as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835888105

Dropped my HD temps 10 degrees Celsius (been running for 8 months, and i cant hear them)

And here is a PSU that will be great for your build

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341002
What DD3 u think I should get? I deff want 4G something thats fast, but not 2 crazy in price, coz I know that DD3 is still hight in price.

U think 700W of PSU will be sufficent? I also will jhave 2 pci sound cards in this build. I currently own an X-fi pro and the razer sound card.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ-CHRIS View Post
You hard drives are SATA, not SCSI so you cannot use a SCSI controller. You could see some very very nice hard drive bandwidth increases if you were to use a high end SATA RAID card, however these can cost a pretty penny.
Whats a good SATA RAID card, something not 2 crazy expansive, but can justify the purcase.

Thanks
__________________
- Asus P6T Deluxe v2 - Intel i7 920 @4Ghz 1.35v- Prolimatech HS - Cosmos S Case -
- ABS Tagan BZ Series BZ800 PSU
- ATI 5870 - G.SKILL 6GB DDR3 1600 - Razer Barracuda™ AC-1
- 120GB Crucial C300 SSD & 3X WD640AAKS HDD
- Dell 24" 2408WFP & 2407WFP-HC Monitor
Zer0Cool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2008, 03:12 PM   #8
Fully Optimized
 
LambOfGod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,783
Send a message via MSN to LambOfGod
Default Re: WS Raptor & Raid 0 Questions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zer0Cool View Post
What DD3 u think I should get? I deff want 4G something thats fast, but not 2 crazy in price, coz I know that DD3 is still hight in price.
Yea I checked the prices on DDR3, its still outragous... so scratch that idea for your budgets concerns



Quote:
Originally Posted by Zer0Cool View Post
U think 700W of PSU will be sufficent? I also will jhave 2 pci sound cards in this build. I currently own an X-fi pro and the razer sound card.
Yes it will
__________________

__________________
LambOfGod- Q6600 g0 @ 3.06 Ghz * DFI LANPARTY DK X48-T2RS * Antec 1200 * Rosewill RP550 PSU * EVGA 8800 GTX Superclocked *WD 74GB Raptor * 2 X Seagate 1TB 7200.11 (RAID 1) * 4 GB DDR2 1022 GSKILL 5-5-5-13 * Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit/Windows XP 64 Bit
LambOfGod is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0