i dont think dells are bad, and the prices arent bad either. I built myself a computer with 2.8ghz P4, 512 dual channel ram, x600xt video card, and a 80gb Hardrive and everything else needed (case, monitor, etc) and it ran me 900 dollars. My brother on the other hand bought a dell with 3.2GHz P4, 1024mb dual cchannel ram, 160GB HDD, and a 6800GT for like...1300-1400.