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Old 10-26-2011, 07:58 AM   #1
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Default wanting to upgrade for battlefield 3

Now that the game is out and I played a little I have decided to upgrade my systm for the first time since I build it.

i7 overclocked to 3.55
6bg ram

I currently have a GTX285, the old DX10 card has to be the bottlekneck so what card would everyone recomend? I'm looking to spend $400.00 (max)

I think It's going to end up with either:
GTX 570 Like the option to upgrade in 90 days
OR
ATI 6970 2GB of memory.

will either of the two brands be easier to add a card and run SLI/Crosfire down the road?
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:01 AM   #2
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Default Re: wanting to upgrade for battlefield 3

First check what your board supports. Some boards support Crossfire AND SLI, and some only support one or the other. If you plan to use double cards in the future this will influence your decision. the card is almost definitely the bottleneck you're experiencing.

If you're board supports Crossfire, go for something reasonably good like the Radeon 6850 or Radeon 6950. Try to get the versions with 1 or 1.5GB VRAM - The problem with the 2GB models is inefficient use of it, sometiems they feel alot more sluggish than the smaller VRAM cards. IF your board supports SLI only; go with something like the GTX 560 Ti. If your board supports SLI AND Crossfire, there's pretty much nothing in it between them.
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:46 AM   #3
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Default Re: wanting to upgrade for battlefield 3

My board supports either.

Is there a reason you don't recomend going all the way to a 570 or 6970?

I'm also Running a 32" display, so I want to run 1080 resolution.
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Default Re: wanting to upgrade for battlefield 3

Probably because crossfired 6970s would be a bit overkill.. 6950 xfired would suffice. If you got a 6970 you would be spending much more, and by the time you saved for a second one 7x series will be out. They'll be better
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Default Re: wanting to upgrade for battlefield 3

Pretty much what Pooka said.

Try to match your hardware as to avoid bottlenecks, rather than just upgrading as far as you can when you upgrade singular components. 6990/GTX 590 tend to work better with Sandy Bridge rigs, probably because the better architecture allows them to work harder. A beasty 1st gen i7 is still a good chip, but it works best with hardware that was available at the time it was release, that was the hardware it was intended to work with.
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Old 10-27-2011, 11:45 AM   #6
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Default Re: wanting to upgrade for battlefield 3

What's funny is that Maximum PC and other enthusiast sites recommend AGAINST what you guys are saying, and I tend to agree.

You should always buy the most of what you can afford if all you care about is performance. Since the OP's monitor is so large, they would be better served by a single fast GPU solution instead of a couple of slower cards.

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but it works best with hardware that was available at the time it was release, that was the hardware it was intended to work with.
I also disagree with this statement. Hardware doesn't care what you pair it with, as long as the generations aren't too far out. They don't need to match, and it's perfectly reasonable to run a high end Core 2 Quad or Phenom II X4 with a GeForce 580 or Radeon HD 6970 card and have good performance. The i7's are all pretty damn fast, so it won't matter which graphics card (right now) you get, as it will be the limiting factor as you scale the resolutions up. The higher the resolution, the more stress you put on the GPU, NOT the CPU.

That being said, the single fastest GPU you can afford will give you the best performance *right now*, and if you do want to add another card later on to boost performance a bit until you're ready to jump, that's the ideal way to go.

Think of an upgrade path like this, for large monitors (I have one and this has served me very well)

Upgrade from prior generation card to single fastest GPU that I can afford. Buy a second one only when the first one can't do what you want, if the timeframe is still before the 2nd generation from that card is out.

Example:

Buy Radeon HD 5870. Card starts to lag in some of the newer games, buy a second 5870 because the newest generation is the 68xx/69xx family of cards (which is only one generation above what you already have). When the 7xxx generation comes out, upgrade if the single card solution is faster than the dual 5870's. Since the cards are two generations apart, the performance gap between them should be more than the standard 5-15% difference, and if you step back and look, when you buy cards every generation, you're throwing money out the window for what amounts to a pitiful generational gap. The marketing guys would have you believe that you're buying something that is revolutionary when in fact, most of the time most people don't or can't notice a difference.

The obvious exception here is that if your single 5870 is outperformed by the next generation by more than 30%, then it's OK to upgrade to the next generation, but lately, that isn't the case.

Single monitor, lower resolution cards almost never need more than one GPU to achieve high performance. Those that believe otherwise are buying into the marketing bullshit.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:18 AM   #7
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Default Re: wanting to upgrade for battlefield 3

yes i would say go with the gtx 570, games are mainly all on the gpu. also i just recenly built a rig for a friend of mine with the 6870, and im not so impressed by its preformance; his card has some trouble running world of tanks considering he cant play it in full screen. i have a gtx 465 in my computer that stomps out his 6870. so certianly if your board has the slot and can run a gtx 570 go with it!
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