Go Back   Computer Forums > General Computing > Hardware
Click Here to Login
Join Computer forums Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 12-25-2004, 07:42 PM   #1
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 6
Default Upgrade motherboard

I recently purchased a hp pavillion computer Model a705w_b with a Intel Celeron 2.93ghz, and 256 mb pc 2700ram. When I bought the pc all i looked at was the clock speed thinking that was the deciding factor not realizing the processor played a much bigger role. Now I wish I would have built my own. Ive upgraded to 512mb ram and a GeForce 5500, but now having a halfway capable computer for some games, i want something for games like Half_life2 and Doom3.
My question is about getting a new motherbaord and cpu. Ive seen some for under 300$ bundled together, and if I can getaway with not spending much more that would be fine. Im not looking for something top of the line, just something capable of playing up-to-date games with decent speed. Im not refering to a video card at all, as that is a seperate issue. Which is better AGP, or pci-e? Ive been hearing good things about the amd 64's for gaming, so im kinda leaning towards one of those. I know nothing of chipsets also. I would also want a mother board that supports the same type of ram I have now so I can just use what I have for now, but i would also like it to support better types of ram. What motherboard should I look into?
Also, would it be as simple as uplugging all of my accessories and installing the new motherboard, the plugging everything back up, or is it more complicated than that. Sorry for all of the newbie questions, just need to be pointed in the right direction.

Thanks
__________________

__________________
munky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2004, 07:44 PM   #2
Baseband Member
 
Bszx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 44
Send a message via AIM to Bszx
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

AMD > Intel..
I dont know if you want to upgrade your mobo. It can be a pain in the ass.. try a better video card if the cheapest and easiest solution...
__________________

__________________
Spec: p4 3.0ghz prescott HT | ASUS P4P800 "Second Edition" | 512 Geil pc-3200 | Saphire Ati Radeon 256 x800 pro | | 120 WD | NEC 16x dual layer DVD r/rw | All in an X-Blade case
Bszx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2004, 07:47 PM   #3
Baseband Member
 
Bszx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 44
Send a message via AIM to Bszx
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

Also celerons are horrible fyi.. I dont know much about mobos prolly go with like an asus 80-100$ idk someone else maybe able to help ya out more if you want the task of upgrading mobo.
__________________
Spec: p4 3.0ghz prescott HT | ASUS P4P800 "Second Edition" | 512 Geil pc-3200 | Saphire Ati Radeon 256 x800 pro | | 120 WD | NEC 16x dual layer DVD r/rw | All in an X-Blade case
Bszx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2004, 07:47 PM   #4
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 6
Default

yes, the only thing is my motherboard has no agp or pci-e slots
__________________
munky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2004, 07:49 PM   #5
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 6
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

basically i kinda want to build a pc, but use everything I already have, like the hd, cd/dvdrw, media reader, and os and software
__________________
munky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2004, 12:29 AM   #6
Fully Optimized
 
ownage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,404
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

get a A64 and mobo combo.
__________________
ownage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2004, 02:17 AM   #7
Golden Master
 
ISOwner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,208
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

Looks like we're in the same boat, munky. I'm planning on building a system too. Haven't bought anything yet. From the looks of things, everyone's been suggesting the AMD system using the Athlon 64. Then again, my eyes are also set on the FOXCONN Intel915P Chipset Motherboard and the Intel LGA 775 Pentium 4 540 3.2 GHz, 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache w/ Hyper Threading combo. Lets see if we can share some ideas. I like to take a crack at Doom 3.
__________________
*Fact: Microsoft Window's Blue Screen of Death vs Computerforums.org's White Screen of Death. Which is worse?
ISOwner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2004, 02:42 AM   #8
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 6
Default

How hard is it to install a motherboard? The furthest ive gone installing anything hardware related is ram, a hard drive and pci cards. Also, im assuming a cpu/mobo combo has the cpu installed already, correct?
__________________
munky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2004, 02:55 AM   #9
Golden Master
 
ISOwner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,208
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

Motherboard is failry easy. There are plastic standoffs and screws you attach the motherboard to the case. It comes with everything you need to install it to the case including HDD cables, mainboard drivers and other software. There's a manual so you can't go wrong plugging in audio, power, usb, reset, HDD lights, ground cables, etc. I'm not getting the mobo/CPU combo. I'm kind of picky at what I want.
__________________
*Fact: Microsoft Window's Blue Screen of Death vs Computerforums.org's White Screen of Death. Which is worse?
ISOwner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2004, 12:31 PM   #10
Fully Optimized
 
ownage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,404
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

AMD's are better for gaming. Intels are for multi-tasking. If you could tell us your budget for a cpu and mobo we can find you some pretty good stuff. Mobo is very easy to install.
__________________
ownage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2004, 06:54 PM   #11
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 6
Default

Could you get a decent set-up for $250-$350? I could spend more, but I also have to think about the $400+ Im gonna have to spend on a high-end video card. Also, are all or most of the better video cards available in agp and pci-e?
__________________
munky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2004, 07:01 PM   #12
Golden Master
 
ISOwner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,208
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

That's pretty much the technology we currently use in video transfer (AGP-older, PCIe-new) for all PCs. I read from magazines (PC World) that AGP and current PCIe specs have not resulted in a significant increase in performance. Actually, AGPs still got some kick in them. I still prefer the PCIe simpley because it's new.

Yeah, you can build a nice system for that price. It may not be the ultimate PC, but you will still be able to do everything you want to do. My current system with the Athlon XP 2500 cost me close to $400. I used my old drives from my previous computer like what you plan on doing.
__________________
*Fact: Microsoft Window's Blue Screen of Death vs Computerforums.org's White Screen of Death. Which is worse?
ISOwner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2004, 07:31 PM   #13
In Runtime
 
DPNPaintballer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 121
Send a message via AIM to DPNPaintballer Send a message via MSN to DPNPaintballer
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

U shouldnt have got a celeron...
__________________
Age: 14
Sex: Not yet. (Male) :D
Current Employer: Ultimate Paintball & Motorsports
"I never did understand why companies add the feater "Gaming" to cases and desktops. It's like....this computer is 1,800...this one is 2,000 and has the same hardware but wait...it is a gaming computer so it must be worth it."--By CarpeNoctem
DPNPaintballer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2004, 08:24 PM   #14
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 6
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

Ok, this is totally straying off-topic, but i was interested in overclocking my cpu, and from what ive read people seem to be getting good results from the little celeron d, at least compared to itself. I have only overclocked 1 pc, which was a pentium 166 to 200mhz, but it was with little jumpers on the motherboard i beleive. From everything ive read, you can modify the multiplyer and fsb in bios to overclock, but I cant seem to find the options or do some bios just not have them? If not what can i do? Just wanting to get more for the time being.
__________________
munky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2004, 10:33 PM   #15
Fully Optimized
 
ownage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,404
Default Re: Upgrade motherboard

if you bought your pc from a manufacturer, the manufacturer locks the fsb and the multiplier so there is no way of ocing.
__________________

__________________
ownage is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
×