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Old 11-03-2005, 03:45 PM   #11
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ok here it is. is this video card as low as i should go? i got some better, but not more ram, dropped one of the rapters and got a barracuda 400gb and thats about it. here it is::

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Old 11-04-2005, 12:27 AM   #12
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drools....



and the price is over $100 lower now.
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:06 AM   #13
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Yeah

GRAPHICS CARD:

The 6600GT would be more like it, but even that would be more powerful than you would need for video editing, yet, its a rather cheap card in todays terms, and if you decided to play gaems, would keep you going a while.
So that
"Geforce 6800GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail"
would be overkill, as you definietly would not need a card that powerful for editing, trust me. You wouldn't even need as good a card as that if you were 3D modelling, etc.

HARD DRIVES:

As for the Raptor, yeah, it was good to drop one as they are too expensive really at the moment, and upping the amount instead

RAM:

The RAM also was a good part ot upgrade as this is what affects video editing the most.

SPEAKERS AND SOUND?:

As for this:

"Logitech X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speaker - Retail"

If you watch movies, etc, it'll be a great choice, and also if you decide to mix 5.1 surround sound into your editing, plus they are really powerful too.

If you wouldn't watch movies though, and wouldn't want to mix in 5.1 and only stereo, these are a slight overkill. Great for music too though of course.

As I'd call it though, you are more than likely to want a better sound card than the one thats built into the motherboard. Why you may ask? Well, it runs off your system slowing down performance, and doesn't allow as much features as a dedictated sound card would.

So if you don't want surround, you could drop the 5.1 to possibly a 2.1 (The same make and set), and get a dedicated PCI sound card instead to save money. This would be alot better trust me than sticking with onboard sound, and the quality will be immencely better too.

You could always stick with the 5.1 though and get a better sound card.

The Sound Blaster Audigy 2 (Or one of the newest ones, though even an older Audigy would be fine, as they just seem to increase the speaker values) sound card wouldn't go amiss, as this supports alot of features built for editing/sound mixing which might be useful for editing video.
Plus, if you get a Digital Version of it, it'll come with a front panel for adding sound devices easier, etc.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102178

Or this if you aren't bothered with some of the features, but still will give you immencely better sound over onboard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102176

I hope this helps
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:20 PM   #14
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yeah id go with any custom built, i do phote editing, and some video editing, and i was really looking at mac a while back because it has teh industry standard finalcutpr and is an industry standard for photo editing, but its too expensive for the power/capabilities it gives you. i can perform the same with a $1400 computer that id have to pay about $2000 for a mac. the things you want to keep in mind for video and photo editing is RAM RAM and RAM, go with a system that will support at least 4 gigs of ram (that is the standard, so just look for 4 gig ram boards) and use dual core, do not go for single core if you are going into photo/video editing, because photo/video editing software actually uses dual core technology and needs it too. and go with the amd dual core, intel is a no-no, the video card....if you really have money buy the quadro fx4400 or the fx4500, but if you dont have money dont think that buying the latest 7800 or x1800xt will give you the same performance, get a really cheap card (im talking 100 bucks), and save up for the $1700 quadro or the $700-800 ATI firegl v7100. no need to go for sli or ocing because you need stability for photo and video editing. so aim for parts taht will give you high end performance without ocing. try to get a second hard drive, preferably an external one for safety/ backup reasons. you will have very valuable files that you would like to keep a back up of and safe. so instead of getting a 400 gig drive, get like one 300 gig drive, and one external 100 gig drive.
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Old 11-04-2005, 09:24 PM   #15
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ok i just read the specs of your computer that card is a waste of money unless you do not want to go to the professional level of editing, this is a gaming card, and will cost you unnecessarily, because even while having this you'll be wanting a quadro, BUT if you just want to image/video edit as a hobby or at an amateur level, then this card is fine. id also suggest the asus a8n sli mother board, if not one of those then the dfi nforce4 sli board.
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MAC, WHAT?!?!

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the custom build is of course for gaming. the mac is good for photo editing. i kno lots of ppl dat use mac for editing stuff.
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Zaki, I agree completly about the video card, as you'll see if you read my post. It is too high for video editing etc, and could save alot more money getting a cheaper card.

The MAC though. I've never liked them for a few reasons, and that custom build will just blow the MAC out of the window, even without the more expensive features not needed for editing (Video card, and possibly the speaker set).
The MAC operating system to me also doesn't offer enough programs at the moment for what I'd want to use a PC for, and editing is one of them.

All you have to be honest is what comes with the latest operating system, IFilm. Its good and all, but I like to have a bit of freedom with software, etc.

Plus, the best pghoto editing software on the MAC would probably be the Adobe software, and you can get this on the PC anyway

Trust me, that custom one is more for you.
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Old 11-05-2005, 07:19 PM   #19
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thanks for the help guys. i bought the processor and motherboard yesterday. i ended up with the Athlon 64 X2 4400+, and the DFI LanParty UT motherboard. also, my PC has changed ONCE AGAIN lol. hopefully this will be the last change, but i may downgrade the videocard if it still is to high end for what i'll be doing. heres the system without the CPU and MOBO.

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Old 11-05-2005, 09:19 PM   #20
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actually, video cards cost more for video/photo editing than gamer cards, in fact there are really only two lines of video/photo editing cards, which are the ati's firegl line up, and the overpowering nvidia Quadro fx series. the quadro is really the industry standard, but the firegl is a good and cheap alternative at the small price of $750!
the mac is also tricky, you HAVE to know how to use a mac and mac programs to last long in the photo/video editing business, anyone from pixar to marvel uses mac, so there you go. BUT i prefer pc, because i can build a cheaper...and much better machine. the only drawback is that if you never get experience with a mac, it will catch up with you in the photo/video editing business.
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