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Old 08-31-2014, 05:18 AM   #1
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Hello folks, anyone who has read any of my threads will have gathered that I'm a grey haired old codger who knows a miniscule amount about pc's but one that is always willing to learn.

I have seen mention of SSD's in various places and am wondering if I would benefit from having one and, if so, are they easy to fit?
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:27 AM   #2
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What are the current specs of the PC you wish to put an SSD in. It also depends on how old it is and will it benefit from it, You'll notice with your OS installed on it that it will boot faster and programs will also load faster.
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How old of a system doesn't really come into play unless it's old enough that it doesn't support SATA drives. Older systems may see the biggest benefit by installing an ssd.

Installing an ssd is pretty easy, IMO. You can use free software like Macrium Reflect to clone your original drive then remove that drive and install the ssd. The tricky part is if your ssd is smaller than the original drive, then you need to remove things from the drive and shrink partitions.

Another way to move to an ssd is to do a clean install of your OS. This is actually the preferred method but takes the most time as you need to install the OS then install all of your software. It is time consuming but not difficult.

After installing the ssd, you should see much faster boot times and the system will be snappier overall.
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Old 08-31-2014, 12:02 PM   #4
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hi folks, my pc is a Dell Studio XPS 7100 running Windows 8.1 Pro
I have found the following information :-
AMD Phenom (tm) II x 6 processor 2.60GHz
6 GB memory
64 bit x 64 based processor
It has one in-built hard drive and the size appears to be in excess of 900gb

I have two stand-alone hard drives which I use for backup purposes

Hope this info will help you Thanks for your input.
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Old 08-31-2014, 02:12 PM   #5
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Then your rig are ok. for an SSD. Suggests a Samsung as they are the most reliable ones but still have a good price tag.

Just make sure that your powersupply have a spare SATA power cable? Or get a 5 pin power molex to power SATA adapter. And get a SATA signal cable if you don't have a spare?

The drive is so lightweight that you can tape it up inside the case with some silver tape in a place where there are decent air flow. Just leave an opening with the tape so the drive can "breathe" properly.
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SSD's are the greatest thing to come alone since Friday nights and back seats.
Newegg is having it's holiday shindig so prices are really insane. I have an OZC 128gig in my hotrod and it's really quick. For the OS drive you don't really need a big one. 128 or maybe 240 will do nicely.

They do have some killer pricing on 512gig drives. I'm warming up my VISA to get one or two of those. WOOHOO!!!
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:53 AM   #7
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From the replies it does seem that installing an SSD is the way to go. if I have a spare cable dangling within the innards of my pc, presumably it will be simply a case of making the connection.
However, if I don't have a spare cable, how easy is it to fit a 5 pin power molex, as mentioned in post #5 and, what about the SAT signal cable, where does this go and what is it connected to.
Sorry about all the questions! Thanks again for all the help.
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As for the power 5 pin molex to SATA adapter, it's very easy. The 5 pin molex will go to any powersupply, 5 pin molex female connector. And the SATA power part to the corresponding connector on the SSD.

The SATA signal cable goes into any SATA connector on the motherbord and to the SSD drive.
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Is this the sort of thing that I should get (or something similar)

OCZ OCZSSDUPGDKIT1 Solid State Drive Upgrade Kit: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories
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P.S. to post #9 - the manual says that there are 5 - 7pin SATA Connectors
1 5pin S/PDIF out (whatever that is)
1 eSATA back panel connector
2 Internal 3.5" bays for SATA Hard Drives

How about one of these?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-120G...+512gb+samsung

I only have about 40gb of used space on my current HDD so this would be plenty big enough for me I think.
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Naah, the only really interesting things in that OCZ kit are the SATA cable and maybe the adapter bracket perhaps?

But still, it's quite enough if you buy that power adapter I whas talking about and the SATA signal cable. + have some silver or duct tape at hand.

Yeah, that is exactly the same Samsung SSD that I have got. I'm very satified with it. Then you can have a normal harddrive for programs that really are'nt useful for the speed of the SSD.
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Further thoughts on installing an SSD. Will I need to format it or does it come already done? If I try to do a clean install of my Windows 8 followed by the download to up it to 8.1, (which seems to be the best route) I might have a problem because the copy of Windows 8 that I have is I think, dependent on Windows 7 being already on the system and it won't be anymore. Also, will there be any messing about with the computer system such as telling it where it now has to boot from, I think the word I am looking for is the BIOS, which I know very little about.
Any other problems that I am likely to encounter doing this?
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No need to format it. Just do a clean installation. There are a migrating progam that comes with the bundle though. But I have'nt got a clue how reliable that is?

Unplug the old harddrive before installing the OS.

You will have to set the boot order in Bios first to the DVD or CD drive.


Here are a couple of videos that explains this procedures better:





Also, remember to disable the defragmentation tool in Windows for the SSD.

The best way to set and forget the defragmentation is to install this:

Best Free Disk Defrag Software, your free disk defragmenter FOREVER €” Smart Defrag

It will disable Windows defrag.
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Just interested to know why it is necessary to uninstall the Windows Defrag tool if you are then installing an alternative.
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I can understand that you think that's strange. But the program will automatically disable Windows defrag tool and set the SSD to off. But you still might want to set the other drive for defragging. Besides, it's handy to never have to think about the defragmentation as this tool will do that automatically. And you even get boot time defrag with this program.
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No need to format it. Just do a clean installation. There are a migrating progam that comes with the bundle though. But I have'nt got a clue how reliable that is?

Unplug the old harddrive before installing the OS.

You will have to set the boot order in Bios first to the DVD or CD drive.


Here are a couple of videos that explains this procedures better:





Also, remember to disable the defragmentation tool in Windows for the SSD.

The best way to set and forget the defragmentation is to install this:

Best Free Disk Defrag Software, your free disk defragmenter FOREVER €” Smart Defrag

It will disable Windows defrag.
Don't use that sneaky little SOB program. It has real time ads in the bottom right corner that connect you to an ad server. On the last window to pop up it has the last 2 items checked. Even though you uncheck them it leaves a wreck of a mess on your system.
When you try to uninstall it tries to trick you in to getting some other software installed. In the bottom right corner is the link to uninstall you want to use. Even then it leaves a link in the windows explorer and leaves a service running that you have to go find manually and remove.

That so called program is written around adware.

If you want a defrag program that is just a defrag program get Auslogic's defragger.
Disk Defrag - Best Free Defrag Software For Your Hard Drive

It does deep defrags along with optimizing. And it doesn't do sneaky things to your computer. And you don't have to disable windows built in defragger. It will ask you if you want this one to be the default program.

I'm still trying to get that POS out of the right click menu. GRRRRRRRRRR
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I should probably get myself an SSD drive now I think about it..
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Don't use that sneaky little SOB program. It has real time ads in the bottom right corner that connect you to an ad server. On the last window to pop up it has the last 2 items checked. Even though you uncheck them it leaves a wreck of a mess on your system.
When you try to uninstall it tries to trick you in to getting some other software installed. In the bottom right corner is the link to uninstall you want to use. Even then it leaves a link in the windows explorer and leaves a service running that you have to go find manually and remove.

That so called program is written around adware.

If you want a defrag program that is just a defrag program get Auslogic's defragger.
Disk Defrag - Best Free Defrag Software For Your Hard Drive

It does deep defrags along with optimizing. And it doesn't do sneaky things to your computer. And you don't have to disable windows built in defragger. It will ask you if you want this one to be the default program.

I'm still trying to get that POS out of the right click menu. GRRRRRRRRRR

But please! You did have the possibility to custom install that program and uncheck the adware that very often are included in free softwares.
I do hope that you arent suggesting I whas trying to have people downloading this program for the sake of the adware?
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But please! You did have the possibility to custom install that program and uncheck the adware that very often are included in free softwares.
I do hope that you arent suggesting I whas trying to have people downloading this program for the sake of the adware?
I did that and no I wasn't suggesting you did anything wrong. It's a sneaky little program that makes changes to your system with out advising the end user about it. I had to resort to using Revo Uninstaller to get 99% of it out. Now I'm stuck with a right click menu item I can't find to remove. And why in the world would you put a defrag entry in a right click menu?
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Well my bits have turned up this morning and I am wondering if I have bought the right item The SSD is only about 55mm long by 30mm wide and is not more than about 3mm thick. When I have looked at these on various sites they appear to be much larger and encased in some sort of case whereas mine seems to be just a raw miniature circuit board.
I have purchased a Samsung SSD 840EVO 120GB as per the link in post #10 earlier.
Can anyone put my mind at ease please?
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