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Old 10-09-2007, 01:41 AM   #1
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Default So who can help me out in Water Cooling?

So I am completely new to the entire Water Cooling scene, but I really want to get involved.

Is there anyone here who has experience with it? I am afraid I am going to have to need a complete talk through. I want to build my own set.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:46 AM   #2
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how much money are you willing to spend?
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A couple of hundred. However I want to assemble my own kit.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:09 AM   #4
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Ok ill see if i can break it down then you can start looking at parts

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first thing you need is pump to get that stuff moving, there are 4 things to look at here.
1. GPH(Gallons per Hour) basically how fast the pump pumps, the bigger the better
2. Power Source, usually its a 12v molex but some need a seperate wall plug. if the one you choose is a wall plug, get this, because you might forget to turn on your kit before your pc, http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...tml?tl=g30c107
3. Fitting Size, you have to bear in mind that if the pump is 3/8" then everything else has to be too, or your going to have to get converters, which really add up in money fast
4. Some pumps have a max water temp, which if suceeded can cause damage to the pump, usually though the liquid passes through the radiator before the pump to eliminate this problem.

i would reccomend this http://www.frozencpu.com/products/63...tml?tl=g30c107
unless your doing more than the cpu\gpu then that should be enough,

im kind of pressed for time right now so ill post this up, and edit in as much as i can
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+1 for all of that Ruds. Thanks a lot for helping out bud.

When you get the time can you recommend parts?
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Blocks

Basically, just read reviews and google things, there isnt much tech specs too them other than what fitting size they use, but the pump i showed you has several different fitting, but 3/8" is common and you want to keep it as simple as possible, adding fittings, will add a lot of money.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20...?tl=g30c85s140
if your going to liquid cool your graphics get this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/63...?tl=g30c87s585
basically the cheapest 8800 block, but they all do the fairly same job, only thing "cheap" about it is that its not copper

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there IS a difference between gpu blocks, and vga blocks, gpu blocks ONLY cool the gpu, you would have to heatsinks for the ram and stuff, but with that vga block it covers everything you need

Reservoir

You dont need one to be able to have a kit, but they come in handy, they give you peace of mind knowing that if there is a tiny leak, that you will be able to notice by the level of your reservoir dropping, and normally leaks cause fatal damage because air gets into the system, they also make it much easier to fill the system with the coolant, and it only takes up a 5.25" bay so space isnt a factor, here is the one im looking at
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22...html?tl=g30c97


Radiator

Pretty easy here, there is basicaly only one thing to choose from, and thats the size, i would reccomend this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...html?tl=g30c95
it has 1 120mm fan, its from danger den (the best for wc parts), and its compatible with the 3/8" setup ive been following

Tubing

Again pretty straight foward, get the right size and enough length.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/43...?tl=g30c99s171
UV Green and its 2$ a foot so not bad at all, in my cart i put in 10 feet, which is more than enough but since this is your first time then you might need it if you make a mistake.

Coolant

I would go with a brand you know is good, thats why i choose this stuff, and its a big tub, so if there is leaks the first time around you can replace it
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/63..._Cl-W0148.html

Fittings

Well, i added 8 of these clamps just in case you need them, there only 1$, so it never hurts to have a proper clamp lying around
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22...ble_Clamp.html
You might need some other fittings if you run into problems, but you can order them later if you need them, but you dont know which ones you might need, i would get at least 2 elobows though, youll probably need them for your pump because it will be in the corner of your case, but i would just wait, find out what exactly you need, then go from there.


Overal thats 315$, with the VGA block, though most people only cool there cpu in which case, it would be 235$, both ways its pretty expensive, and these arent tip top parts, but it certainly beats a regular kit. Dont the the VGA block if your going to upgrade soon though, it probably wont fit the new cards, but the LGA775 looks like its going to last quite a while, so it might be worthwhile getting a better block if your future rigs want to be Liquid Cooled.
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make sure you assemble and test your kit before installing it in your pc
also if u get water on any of your components dont panic
just take a blow dryer and make sure theres no condensation before turning on your pc
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Blocks

Basically, just read reviews and google things, there isnt much tech specs too them other than what fitting size they use, but the pump i showed you has several different fitting, but 3/8" is common and you want to keep it as simple as possible, adding fittings, will add a lot of money.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20...?tl=g30c85s140
if your going to liquid cool your graphics get this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/63...?tl=g30c87s585
basically the cheapest 8800 block, but they all do the fairly same job, only thing "cheap" about it is that its not copper

EDIT
there IS a difference between gpu blocks, and vga blocks, gpu blocks ONLY cool the gpu, you would have to heatsinks for the ram and stuff, but with that vga block it covers everything you need

Reservoir

You dont need one to be able to have a kit, but they come in handy, they give you peace of mind knowing that if there is a tiny leak, that you will be able to notice by the level of your reservoir dropping, and normally leaks cause fatal damage because air gets into the system, they also make it much easier to fill the system with the coolant, and it only takes up a 5.25" bay so space isnt a factor, here is the one im looking at
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22...html?tl=g30c97


Radiator

Pretty easy here, there is basicaly only one thing to choose from, and thats the size, i would reccomend this
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21...html?tl=g30c95
it has 1 120mm fan, its from danger den (the best for wc parts), and its compatible with the 3/8" setup ive been following

Tubing

Again pretty straight foward, get the right size and enough length.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/43...?tl=g30c99s171
UV Green and its 2$ a foot so not bad at all, in my cart i put in 10 feet, which is more than enough but since this is your first time then you might need it if you make a mistake.

Coolant

I would go with a brand you know is good, thats why i choose this stuff, and its a big tub, so if there is leaks the first time around you can replace it
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/63..._Cl-W0148.html

Fittings

Well, i added 8 of these clamps just in case you need them, there only 1$, so it never hurts to have a proper clamp lying around
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22...ble_Clamp.html
You might need some other fittings if you run into problems, but you can order them later if you need them, but you dont know which ones you might need, i would get at least 2 elobows though, youll probably need them for your pump because it will be in the corner of your case, but i would just wait, find out what exactly you need, then go from there.


Overal thats 315$, with the VGA block, though most people only cool there cpu in which case, it would be 235$, both ways its pretty expensive, and these arent tip top parts, but it certainly beats a regular kit. Dont the the VGA block if your going to upgrade soon though, it probably wont fit the new cards, but the LGA775 looks like its going to last quite a while, so it might be worthwhile getting a better block if your future rigs want to be Liquid Cooled.
Ok, is assembly hard?
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Not that hard if you know what your doing.

Although my friend has some sickk ass water cooling, took him 8 hrs to build his whole computer, but you can't see one wire or anything.
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make sure you assemble and test your kit before installing it in your pc
also if u get water on any of your components dont panic
just take a blow dryer and make sure theres no condensation before turning on your pc
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