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Old 09-27-2006, 01:29 AM   #1
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Default Skt 939 vs. Skt T

Well, thats pretty much it.

I have done little if any 'actual' research on this. Im going to procede to do so now.

Anyways, on to the thread..

I want to build a new computer, and I think Skt 939 would be best. Ultimatly because of the price cuts. You could make a NICE system for cheap. However say I put $800 into it. And say I put $800 into a Conroe Sytsem.

How would it compare? Conroe yes can kick its ass. However price for perfomance (and mind you 939 has the price cuts, while Conroe is brand new with no price dips at all).

I think I could make a really nice system with 939. Considering I already have the Gcard, mouse and speakers (might get new keyboard who knows). And the Monter price is excluded from the $800.


Just thoughts and ideas is all I want.

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Does anyone understand this perspective
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Old 09-28-2006, 11:27 PM   #2
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Default Re: Skt 939 vs. Skt T

Ermm.... Bump?
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Old 09-29-2006, 12:05 AM   #3
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003
that would leave $480 for the other parts, which should be more than enough since u don't need a vid card. And that cpu pretty much destroys ANY s939 cpu, and u can use ddr2 ram.
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Default Re: Skt 939 vs. Skt T

Yes, I understand. My brother has a 939 system that currently outperforms my AM2 system on single-core things because he has hit higher OC's. He can get to 2850MHz while I'm stuck at 2700. The only reason I can run stuff better is because of my graphics card and if I'm multitasking. So yes, it is possible to make a nice machine with 939 cheaply.
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Old 09-29-2006, 12:33 AM   #5
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Default Re: Skt 939 vs. Skt T

I think I understand your perspective. Now I know the Conroes are very good, and destroy any AMD CPU right now on the market. It's just, the thing is, I've been able to run pretty much every one of my games on highest settings, though I do have it overclocked to 2800MHz instead of 2400; the only thing that's limiting me in games is my graphics card. It's good, but certainly not great anymore. The only thing I can imagine a Conroe would really be better than mine, given that I have a refresh rate of 75Hz, so anything beyond that is unnecessary, is benchmarks. I really couldn't care less about those so much, because I don't "play" benchmarks. I "play" games. And that's where I get exceptional performance. I think, especially with the price cuts, the 939s give you a better run for your money. Especially the single core. I wouldn't recommend dual core to anybody, unless it's the same or very near the same price with the same core clock. Here's my perspective:

Dual core future-proofs your system for future dual-core applications. Future applications. By the time it has become where you need dual core for most games, they will have better dual core CPUs out! Probably higher than 3.5GHz, maybe even 4+, unless they decide to kill these and start producing multiple quad-core processors. So any dual core CPU as of now will be smeared by the future ones, and therefore won't be able to run the future dual-core apps very well. That's just my thoughts, agree or disagree, I don't care. I just like the high clocks, that's why I chose single core over dual core, plus it was much cheaper at the time.

But now I probably would buy a dual core, considering they're only a little more than mine. When I bought mine, the 4800 was ~$300 more than the 4000...Whatever. You could get tons of great RAM with the remaining money, plus probably a Raptor or 2, and a good mobo. I think I see where you were getting at. Feel free to get dual core, I really don't care ; it's just, the way I see it, it's almost a waste of money, since they're gonna have better ones when the time comes to actually utilize them. I love my S939 computer. And good luck with your build.

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Default Re: Skt 939 vs. Skt T

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003
that would leave $480 for the other parts, which should be more than enough since u don't need a vid card. And that cpu pretty much destroys ANY s939 cpu, and u can use ddr2 ram.
I do have also 1gb ram.
But I have no idea what timing and its from dell so I might as well get new stuff all together.

Hmm.. Maybe ill look more into Intel. Haha, thanks man. I was kinda over thinking things I guess.
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If I were you I'd start putting money away and wait for the DX-10 cards to come out, it makes no sense to build a highend system right now when there are SO many new technologies on the horizon. Come middle of next year there will be Quad Core chips and DX-10 gfx cards, and DDR3. Just my opinon. Thats what I'm doing. I want to build a new system I'm currently running an overclocked AMD Athalon 3200+ with a gig of RAM and a 256MB 6600GT, the only upgrade I've made to it in the last year was the addition of a pair of 74GB Raptors RAID-0, and that's the only thing moving to my next system. I was all about to start on my new system but after alot of mulling it over I'm waiting and putting away $$$, I just got a new Core 2 Duo laptop with 2GB DDR2 and a 512MB gfx card and this thing smokes, so I can hold out
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Old 09-29-2006, 10:20 AM   #8
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Open up your case and look at your ram, there should be a tab on it (Sticky) On all computers gateway/dell/custom on ram, it should say model number, and maybe even clock speeds and such, just search the model number in google or newegg.

For motherboard, maybe a ABIT mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127225

Or even the DFI Lanpart
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136009

Also, go with a processor that is good, maybe a x2. My recommendation is
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103544

If you want intel, i think its socket LGA 775? Right, well if you want that. maybe go with:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003

As for ram, i would go with Ballistix or Patriot (I personally like patriot but alot of other people dont
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220040

Harddrive: SATA ( No madder what )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144423

Power Supply: Power and Quiet
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817181106

As for case:
I dont know actually, get what you want.


I think that totals in around 900 dollars, you could just use one of your old monitors if you wanted to (you have like 3-4 lol)
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Default Re: Skt 939 vs. Skt T

Socket AM2 procssors are cheaper than 939 for my pricing. Equivelant AM2 motherboards are 10$ more expensive than 939 ones (MSI Neo series). DDR2 is also cheaper than DDR for me now as well.

I'd get an AM2.

Conroe is also nice, but Conroe motherboards are as expensive as hell for good ones, and the processors are in limited supply as well.
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Default Re: Skt 939 vs. Skt T

ArrizX, timings don't mean crap on Intel setups.

If you want good performance for the price, it depends what you want to do. Video editing? Gaming? Or it could just be a daily use computer where you do everything on it. Core 2 Duos are going to last a while, while the K8 architecture is aging. Personally, if you are going to keep everything at stock, i would pick up a Core 2 Duo E6400, ASUS P5B, some of the cheapest PC6400 you can find, a case you like, reuse your storage and optical drives, pick up a video card of your choice to suit your needs, this power supply (http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-E5150GH) (Btw, Enhance OEMs for Silverstone, and boy have you seen Silverstone psus ) And you are basically set. I just listed all the key parts, and the rest are up to you to fit your budget, like case, hard drives, RAM (be sure to get PC6400 though, capacity is up to you, but i recommend getting 2x512, Intel doesnt take a performance hit from running 4x512 Intel always has run 2T command rate) and any other things you want. Good luck!
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