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Old 05-20-2017, 04:47 PM   #1
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The setup I currently use is:

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (Sata II Connections, yeah I know right)
120GB SSD SATA III
ASUS GTX 680 Video Card
8GB DDR3 RAM

Two Monitors

Dell U2515H 2560x1440
and another 1920x1080


Applications I use:

Office 365 - Outlook most of the time
Adobe Master Collection - Illustrator etc.
Google Chrome - sometimes lots of tabs
Spotify


Having upgraded to SSD a few years ago there has been a significant performance improvement as you might expect.
But I do notice a slowness about the system even when using Facebook on Google Chrome...

The motherboard and CPU are the only two components that were part of the original build when I built the system back in 2010.


Should I upgrade the CPU and motherboard?
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If you want to keep your RAM, remember you have DDR3, so your options are limited. You can either get an FX (not recommended), or a Haswell, which could be a viable option.

You should check your RAM usage. If you are using it all, your system can get very slow, and has nothing to do with your CPU. Try using the PC normally and monitoring the RAM and CPU usage with the task manager. You can know if something is overloaded, and then decide what to upgrade.

Edit: Your CPU is good for your needs.
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If you want to keep your RAM, remember you have DDR3, so your options are limited. You can either get an FX (not recommended), or a Haswell, which could be a viable option.

You should check your RAM usage. If you are using it all, your system can get very slow, and has nothing to do with your CPU. Try using the PC normally and monitoring the RAM and CPU usage with the task manager. You can know if something is overloaded, and then decide what to upgrade.

Edit: Your CPU is good for your needs.
Thanks for the response.

It is definitely the CPU that is struggling slightly at times. RAM usage is generally okay.

I'd probably change the RAM.

Any thoughts on the new AMD Ryzen?
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Thanks for the response.

It is definitely the CPU that is struggling slightly at times. RAM usage is generally okay.

I'd probably change the RAM.

Any thoughts on the new AMD Ryzen?
The CPU struggles with Chrome?

If I were you I wouldn't get a Ryzen. You would probably be better of with an I3-7100, or even a Pentium. Ryzen is more Gaming and content creation oriented.
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The CPU struggles with Chrome?

If I were you I wouldn't get a Ryzen. You would probably be better of with an I3-7100, or even a Pentium. Ryzen is more Gaming and content creation oriented.
But like I said I use Adobe Master Collection.
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But like I said I use Adobe Master Collection.
Sorry I missed that. I read Chrome and Office and thought it was an office computer. What's your budget?
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That's a pretty poor quad core CPU. I'd go Intel.

In comparison:

AMD Phenom II X4 - CS=3.4 Ghz - Passmark=4219

My PCs:

Intel i3-2105 dual core - CS=3.1 Ghz - Passmark=3732

Intel i5-3570 quad core - CS=3.4 Ghz - Passmark=7024

I used to an AMD guy til I tried a Celeron for a budget build (before I got the i3). I was impressed with this $50 CPU.

Intel Celeron G540 dual core - CS=2.5 Ghz - Passmark=2205
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Since you'll have to format if you upgrade the mobo and CPU anyway, I suggest clean formatting you current system. I feel something went wrong with the OS. Any quad core should be good for such normal uses. That's unless you use Adobe professionally and want to take advantage of every single second then an upgrade is a good idea.
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Since you'll have to format if you upgrade the mobo and CPU anyway, I suggest clean formatting you current system. I feel something went wrong with the OS. Any quad core should be good for such normal uses. That's unless you use Adobe professionally and want to take advantage of every single second then an upgrade is a good idea.
If he uses Windows 10 and has linked his PC to his Microsoft account, he should be able to switch motherboard and cpu and then run Win10's troubleshooter for activation.

Reactivating Windows 10 after a hardware change
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I'm having in mind the drivers not the activation problem. In all comps I replaced the mobo, let alone with the CPU, Windows got screwed and typically had BSOD. They are not that many comps, but all did.
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Depending on your personal needs and desires you need to upgrade when you need to upgrade.
I need to upgrade every couple of years to stay current for my production work flow so I can spend less time at the computer and more time doing other tasks. (photographing, filming, playing and creating music per-production)
I also need to upgrade so the other people in the family will have decent equipment. When I upgrade, I make a new system for myself and my wife makes a copy of it for herself and we each pass our old machines to our 2 kids.
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So you say i should have got a new computer when My Wifey did??? I think i got shortchanged!!! That means i am way overdue!
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So you say i should have got a new computer when My Wifey did??? I think i got shortchanged!!! That means i am way overdue!
Your wife already allowed you to buy a new case. You need to learn your place, pal.
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I paid out 1000.00 for her asus with i5 and 8 gigs of ram. I am using a 12 year old motherboard. What is right about this picture???
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Seriously Dan? I built my i5 system for less than $600 and that's with very good components. That's with $155 in savings waiting for the deals. I took a year to build it.

I built mine for durability (business grade stuff) and is now 5-6 years old. Still going strong. Mine's a Gigabyte B75 board with i5-3570 and 2x4g memory.
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Hers is a laptop. I5 quad core with 8 gigs ram a ssd 500gb. And touch screen. Really good computer and really fast. I am thinking of something along those lines. Only a tower. I can build a good tower for around 5-600 bucks too. But, I can't build a laptop like that. Wish I could....sucks....
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I didn't realize it could be a laptop. Nope, can't build one of them.
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Nope can't do it, but at least we consumer's have a big variety of lappy's to choose from.
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Yeah, but i don't like laptops. If something goes bad you pretty much have to trash it and get a new one. With a tower i can replace or fix components. I kept that old motherboard running with 4 different processors, a different pcu fan one new dvd burner. different power supply 2 Different motherboards and I had to get two new sticks of ram. One went bad and i bought in pairs. two different Hard Drives. I have one newer and one brand new hd for this computer and i still have one of the old 80 gig ide hd that still works but has been wiped clean. The board i have now is not included in the above numbers. My next system will be way newer!! Even with the issues i have had over the last 12 years, I still have the basic same computer minus windows xp. I still have my back up discs along with the windows xp disc and have all three service packs on disc as well. Never know, I may just need them again down the road.
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A quad i5 laptop? That must be something expensive. Even some i7's come dual core on laptops so you can imagine how special a core i5 is on one.
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