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Old 06-06-2005, 11:05 AM   #1
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Default Report: Apple switching to Intel chips

Im not a mac guy ... but found this interesting anyway ...

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Monday, June 6, 2005

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SAN FRANCISCO -- A stormy, decade-long relationship between Apple Computer Inc. and IBM is over, according to published reports. Apple CEO Steve Jobs is expected to announce Monday morning at the company's software developers conference in San Francisco that Apple will discontinue using microprocessor chips made by IBM in favor of Intel chips, according to CNET Networks Inc.'s News.com and The Wall Street Journal.

Officials from Apple, Intel Corp. and International Business Machines Corp. could not be reached Sunday to confirm the report.

For years, rumors of Apple's wish to jump to Intel have been circulating. But two weeks ago, analysts were skeptical when The Wall Street Journal reported that Intel and Apple were in negotiations.

One reason for the skepticism is that the move represents a significant risk for Cupertino, Calif.-based Apple.

Switching to Intel's x86 chips would force Apple's programmers to rewrite its software in order to adapt to the new processor.

"I don't know that Apple's market share can survive another architecture shift," Insight 64 analyst Nathan Brookwood told News.com. "Every time they do this, they lose more customers."

News.com reported that Apple would begin the transition to Intel with its lower-end computers, such as the Mac Mini, in mid-2006 and higher-end models a year later.

Apple's break with IBM stemmed from Jobs' wish that IBM make a larger variety of the PowerPC processors used in Macintosh systems. IBM balked because of concerns over the profitability of a low-volume business, News.com reported.

By wrestling away Apple's business from IBM, Intel tightens its stranglehold on the PC processor business. The company holds more than an 80 percent share of the market.

Although IBM suffers a setback with the loss of Apple, the company could reap a financial windfall from deals with Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony Corp. to put microprocessors it is producing in next-generation video-game consoles.

A new microprocessor that IBM co-developed with Sony and Toshiba Corp, code-named Cell and planned for Sony's next PlayStation console, is being touted as capable of delivering 10 times the performance of today's PC processors.
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Default Re: Report: Apple switching to Intel chips

Hmm that is interesting. I bet people will start complaining too, and the fact all software would have to be re-written.
Intel wil become very powerful then indeed if it grabs hold of that market too...

Don't know if thats good news or bad news for Apple Macs (I dont really favour Apple though)
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Does that mean the Apple software would become compatible with PC, or would they still be uninterchangeable.
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Hmm, thats a good thought... Apple might actually become a PC manufacturer in those terms in that case, since things would be backward compatable.

Though Apple does use the Mac operating system, and so the programs would not be compatable with Windows in the way you're thinking.
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Default Re: Report: Apple switching to Intel chips

I thought I read the Intel was going to make a Mac based chip but there were also rumours that Mac was going to switch to x86. I know that they were thinking of going with Intel after Motorolla but Jobs went with IBM. It will be interesting nonetheless. This is probaly a push to make their computers cheaper.

Anyone else find it odd that in IBM's PC's they use Intel chips instead of makin there own.... Shows a lot about their confidence in Chip manufacturing. This might be great for Apple. I don't like Apple though (I'm sorry but I can't stand fan boys.)
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hehe yeah. It will definitley be interesting, thats for sure We'll just have to wait and see.
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The BBC Confirms its true

Apple will be switching to the x86 archutecture using Intel chips. I have not heard news of wether these will be off the self Pentiums, Modified Pentiums, or a totaly new chip.

I expect the OS will continue to be used but I'd expect Apple to restrict its use only to "Macintosh" PC's, ether by motherboard firmware, or as above chip diffrences.

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I'm sure workarounds will be found very quickly though. It will be an interesting development to watch.
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Default Re: Report: Apple switching to Intel chips

I just watched attack of the show on G4TechTV and from what it sounds like it will be in competeing with Windows.
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It wont be, I havent seen any official word, but I really dont see Apple doing this, at least not right away.
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Well, Microsoft owns a good deal of Apple anyway. Any 'competing' would work for Microsoft. Either way, Microsoft wins.

EDIT> http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-5733756.html
At the end of the article, it talks about how Windows WILL be able to run on the new machines. They won't allow their OS to run on other machines, however.
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Default Re: Report: Apple switching to Intel chips

I just read that spank. (nice name) That's interesting and might be bad move by Apple. Microsoft may steal some not a lot but some of the sales of Apples because of this, more than before. I wonder Apple won't let it run on other computers. (stubborness) I wouldn't mind dual booting an Apple and Windows. (never thought I would say that sentence. Considering PC's hasrdware is cheaper and in most cases better. (I'm sorry Mac fans but SD RAM? Don't make me wet myself.)

Competition is going to be good for Microsoft. With a real threat (Linux doesn't count open source/free not a lot of users switched) Microsoft will start churning out wonderful things. Competition will only be good. It will bring about their competitive spirit (Gates is VERY competitive) instead of sitting around being lazy and having nothing to worry about.
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Default Re: Report: Apple switching to Intel chips

as I posted in the other thread

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I think what he's really saying is if someone wants to get Windows working on a Mac, They dont care. It wont be officialy supported but I dont think It will be as easy as sticking in a Windows disc ether.
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Well, no. I'm just saying that Windows will be able to run on it. I didn't say easily.
Can we combine the two Apple threads? If I remember correctly, there's an option to do that. Either that or let's stop posting in one of them.
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Good Day,

This is not a situation about IBM's Confidence.

IBM is the Pioneer/Grandaddy of all Coputing (Apple too).

Apple uses IBM's Microprocessor because IBM's products are great.

The Majority of the time, computer manufacturers do not use their own Hard Disk Drives, not because they are not confident.

I don't think Apple would switch to Intel.

IBM is already good and they are going to end up worsening things.

Intel is good, but I love IBM.
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Good Day,

It is possible to install windows on a Macintosh System.
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Yes, it's called Virtual PC. Virtual PC works by emulating a Pentium-based Windows machine, right on your Mac. When you launch Virtual PC, the Windows OS appears inside a window on your Mac desktop. You can switch back and forth between your Mac OS and Windows as easily as you go between any two windows on your Mac desktop. Using Virtual PC, you can copy and paste text and graphics between Mac and Windows, and drag files and folders from one OS to the other. This is great for anyone who needs to test the integrity of cross-platform projects, such as HTML documents, graphics files, and so on.
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Cool.

There is a spot open here at Paretovex for you, not like it is any special priviledge or anything, but you are very welcome here, (TRD Corolla), i'd love it if you joined

It won't take much of your time either, it's quite simple and easy, and you'll be credited if you like.

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Is that the company you're starting up? Do you have any links to it? see it in your sig too.
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Good Day,

It is the company that I am trying to start up, lol, it is slow and is a struggle.

There is not currently a link, I have not put up a website as yet.

I am working on the websites. (extremely slowly as well!).

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