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Old 04-26-2005, 10:54 PM   #31
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I think that this is probaly what I will shoot for:

AMD Athlon 64 3500+ / 512KB Cache / 2000 MHz FSB / Socket 939 / Processor
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1035203&Tab=11&NoMapp=0$239.99
$273

K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI - Socket 939 AMD Athlon 64 Mainboard - nVidia nForce4 SLI Chipset - Serial ATA RAID - Firewire - DUAL PCI-E - DUAL Gigabit LAN
http://www.pcdirect.com//product.asp...8NNEO4%2DPLSLI
$173

MSI Geforce 6600GT 128MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI-Express x16 Video Card

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16814127147

$188

Mushkin Blue Line Dual Channel 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory (2 x 512MB)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...ab=11&NoMapp=0
$140



Raidmax Aluminum Silver Front Astro-268 Case with Power Supply
http://www.edazz.com/raalplascawp.html
$72

Western Digital 120GB Internal Hard Drive
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Weste...oductDetail.do
$50

Samsung / 52x32x52x CD-RW / 16x DVD-ROM / Beige OEM Combo Drive with Software
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...216713&CatId=0
$40


Total: $936
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Old 04-27-2005, 12:10 AM   #32
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AMD 3500+ Winchester Core 2.2GHz BEAST!

The ABIT FATALITY Motherboard! You will OC this PC, and you will Do it with EASE!!

nVidia 6800GT PCIe GPU!
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RoseWill 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 GPU!

Patriot CAS 2ns LOW LATENCY DDR400 PC3200 2-3-3-5-T1 Dual Channel RAM!!!! $130!!!!!


All of these Recommendations I would consider! HOWEVER!!!


DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT GET THE MSI Neo4 Board! It is a good board, but for a single Graphics card, the FATALITY Whips its ASS!! I have a Neo4 Plat, and they are good, but my Mom uses a FATALITY, and NOTHING can beat it PERIOD!

TOTAL PRICES=

With 6800GT= $940
With 6600GT= $820
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:27 PM   #33
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Ok, couple of things. Why? I need to know why I should get these parts.

Why is the RoseWill 6600GT better than the MSI?

Why the Patriot RAM?

I'm sorry if I'm being picky but his is my first PC and I want to get it right.

What makes the Winchester core better?

I was also planning on SLI'ing eventually....

I also don't plan on OC because I don't want to screw anything.
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:56 PM   #34
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eastern..i dont think he is going to be overclocking so why pay more for a mobo that he doesnt need?
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Old 04-27-2005, 06:52 PM   #35
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Ok, couple of things. Why? I need to know why I should get these parts.

Why is the RoseWill 6600GT better than the MSI?

Why the Patriot RAM?

I'm sorry if I'm being picky but his is my first PC and I want to get it right.

What makes the Winchester core better?

I was also planning on SLI'ing eventually....

I also don't plan on OC because I don't want to screw anything.

First off, OCing won't screw anything up, if you do it right, and I have a Fatality, so I can walk you through the easy steps to OC it. It is not dangerous if done properly. Secondly, RoseWill is just cheaper, and they make EXCELLENT products. The Patriot RAM is not well known, but is VERY GOOD. It has a lifetime warranty on it, and is very stable and VERY INEXPENSIVE for the timings they are giving you! The Winchester core is built on a 90nm process, making it run much cooler then the Newcastle based 130nm process core. This enables better OCing, and more stability even without OCing. SLi is WONDERFUL TECHNOLOGY, but I have it (the Neo4 PLat SLi) and it is not all it is made out to be. I mean, don't get me wrong, it is great, but the ABIT FATALITY makes SLi look crummy. With Dual Core Graphics cards almost here, there is no reason to go SLi at this point. The x850XT PE on that ABIT FATALITY board screams!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is ONLY SO MUCH PERFORMANCE FOR THE PRICE you need on a specific budget. OCing won't screw ANYTHING up with a little help from me and some others around here. I will be happy to walk you through it over MSN even if you want. Quite honestly, I would go for the 6800GT card, you will not regret it...

The parts I showed you are some of the best on the market either by PRICE vs PERFORMANCE or based purely on PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. If they are too high a price, then I can find lower end parts, but the PC won't turn out as well as it could with other parts. Also, the MSI 6600GT is VERY GOOD, but its cooling isn't all that great (No RAMDAC coolers...)
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How about lets pick the computer you would get if you couldn't overclock.

The thing I don't think my dad would like it if I tried to overclock. One screw up and boom $260+ down the drain.


And it's MY MONEY. And I don't make a lot of it.
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Ok... if I couldn't OC.... Hmm... well, even though the ABIT has AutoOverclocking, sure, that is fine, but you should not be scared to do it.

Here then, get this BAD BOY. You will be happy with this one, it is well made and has some cool features for stability.

http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16813127197

ABIT makes some of the BEST boards around, and they come with LOTS of goodies!

As far as CPU goes, that is your choice, I would get the 3200+ 939 Pin Winchester Core CPU.

RAM, go with that Patriot RAM, it is LifeTime Warranty and great timing for an even better price!

Tower, totally up to you.

Graphics Card:
Tow choices, the top one here being much better, but also much more expensive. So choose wisely. The 6800 is EXCELLENT, but the 6600GT provides performance unrivalled for its price range!

eVGA 6800GT PCI Express GPU for $359.00

Rosewill 6600GT with Copper Cooling 128MB $175
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yes go with the 6600gt. you wont be dissappointed IF your going sli. if your going with 1 card get teh 6800gt because you wont have to upgrade and get rid of the old card as fast.
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Exactly Money, exactly. The 6600 is money saving, and if you can afford it now, get it. If you REALLY WANT SLi, then get the Neo4 or ASUS A8N SLi Deluxe. However, I do not think you should go with SLi unless you are willing to save up for another GPU, in which case you should get an SLi board now, and one 6800GT, then save up for another IDENTICAL 6800GT from the SAME manufacturer with the SAME VGA BIOS to put in in the very VERY near future.
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i thought they just had to be the same card not the same manufacturer...
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