Go Back   Computer Forums > General Computing > Hardware
Click Here to Login
Join Computer forums Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-11-2010, 11:01 AM   #1
Baseband Member
 
GEKKACAMEO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 74
Default Raid and ssd

My apologies if there is already a thread pertaining to this topic. I am on my way to work and wanted to ask about this before I forgot.

I am just wondering if people feel that the use of solid state hard drives will make raid obsolete or will it continue to be a great way to boost read/write times? It seems that raid would end up being too much work for a very little payoff but then again I do gang my ram (seems like the same thing...is it?).
__________________

GEKKACAMEO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2010, 11:43 AM   #2
Fully Optimized
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,390
Default Re: Raid and ssd

Quote:
Originally Posted by GEKKACAMEO View Post
My apologies if there is already a thread pertaining to this topic. I am on my way to work and wanted to ask about this before I forgot.

I am just wondering if people feel that the use of solid state hard drives will make raid obsolete or will it continue to be a great way to boost read/write times? It seems that raid would end up being too much work for a very little payoff but then again I do gang my ram (seems like the same thing...is it?).
RAM operates a little differently. The RAM controller can access the RAM banks simultaneously and not one bank by one. With RAID 0 the data is stripped across two drives. This is what gives you the increased read/write times in a stripped array.

RAID 0 is kind of a misnomer. AID 0 would be better because the array isn't Redundant and only used when describing RAID(!)0. RAID is supposed to offer data redundancy and RAID 0 doesn't. In this respect alone SSD's will not/never replace RAID arrays. If you want some form of data protection then a RAID array, 1 or higher, will offer this form or protection.

RAID 0 or an SSD? I'd go with an SSD because the idea of RAID is data redundancy, not speed, therefore rendering RAID 0 almost pointless if it weren't for the fact that SSD's are still expensive and I really don't see the need for slightly quicker loading times at the expense of two drives and increased possibility of data loss.
__________________

__________________
Lenovo ThinkPad T410 - i7 620M - 8GB RAM - Crucial M4 120GB SSD - 250GB 2nd drive - Intel HD 3000 GPU - 1440x900 - Windows 7/8
REMENIZ Computers
Remeniz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2010, 10:28 PM   #3
Daemon Poster
 
GibsonSGKing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,384
Default Re: Raid and ssd

Raid won't become obsolete with any foreseeable storage means, because raid will pretty much always make it faster (in the case of RAID0). Also, the other RAID's just make it more secure and stable, so that's unlikely to change as well.
__________________
C2Q Q9400 @ 3.2GHZ | Zalman 9900 LED HeatSink | Asus P5E3 Pro Motherboard | CM Storm Scout case | 1TB Caviar Black HDD | GTX760 4GB | 23" Acer [1920x1080] & 21.6" Asus [1920x1080] monitors
GibsonSGKing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2010, 12:02 AM   #4
Omnipotent One
 
Atomic Rooster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 11,161
Send a message via AIM to Atomic Rooster Send a message via Yahoo to Atomic Rooster
Default Re: Raid and ssd

Did somebody say RAID and SSD?. . .

Atomic Rooster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2010, 02:18 AM   #5
In Runtime
 
nbrikha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 336
Send a message via AIM to nbrikha Send a message via Yahoo to nbrikha
Default Re: Raid and ssd

RAID will become obsolete in terms of performance. It never was all too great at making amazing boosts in performance, though it did help a bit. RAID in a SSD is not going to gain performance I believe in theory because SSD don't have disks, they have blocks which can be accessed simultaneously. The only reason you would RAID SSDs is for security, to be redundant.

But if prices never go down? HDDs will be used in NAS systems and for giant RAID configs and SSDs will be used to boot the OS and games.
__________________
Desktop: AMD Phenom II 840 X4 @ 3.7Ghz // Asus Sabertooth 990FX // CM HAF 932 // XFX HD 5770 // 8GB Corsair Vengeance @1600 + 8GB G.skill Sniper @ 1600mhz (C9) // Cooler Master 600W // Zalman CNPS9900 // Sidewinder x8
Laptop: Dell Vostro 3555 // AMD A6-3400 1.4Ghz x4 w/ 6520 // 500GB HDD // 4GB Ram upgrading to 8GB soon // Backlit Spillproof Keyboard
nbrikha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 10:56 AM   #6
Baseband Member
 
GEKKACAMEO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 74
Default Re: Raid and ssd

Great info. I'm going to look into redundancy now. Something I've not yet purposely considered in a build.

Samsung SSD Raid thing is crazy. That would be so expensive.
GEKKACAMEO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2010, 11:05 AM   #7
Fully Optimized
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: England
Posts: 3,390
Default Re: Raid and ssd

Quote:
Originally Posted by GEKKACAMEO View Post
Great info. I'm going to look into redundancy now. Something I've not yet purposely considered in a build.
Using a RAID 1, or higher, array is a great way to decrease the possibility of loosing data should a drive fail.

RAID 0, or AID0 , has a speed advantage.

I'll always favour security over the slight speed increase.

But when the SSD drop in price i'll have one.

__________________

__________________
Lenovo ThinkPad T410 - i7 620M - 8GB RAM - Crucial M4 120GB SSD - 250GB 2nd drive - Intel HD 3000 GPU - 1440x900 - Windows 7/8
REMENIZ Computers
Remeniz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0