Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express

jigglyj0 · 07-17-2009, 04:56 AM

im looking for a graphics card for a new desktop so i went to a gaming forum and they recommended this card

when i googled i saw that there are radeons made by saphhire, asus and ATI. i know that ATI is the original brand but are these other brands similar?

the site also recommended that i use two of those graphic cards
is that necessary? i only want to do some simple gaming
if its not necessary, how much of a difference would it make if i bought a lower performance graphics card to complement it?

as a side note, do the higher end computer coolers actually increase performance? can't i just buy a regular fan? and blow it towards my computer?

PokerDegenerate · 07-17-2009, 08:44 AM

Well to answer your questions we would really need some more information such as:

What are the specs of the rest of your computer?
What is your monitor's resolution?
What games do you play?
Where are you located?

sniperviper21 · 07-17-2009, 03:10 PM

if it is named after an ATI product, ex,

ATi makes a 4870,
so does Asus and the rest, as long as it is a 4870, it is the same as any other 4870, nothing diffrent, just diffrent brands, nothing special

and blowing a regular fan probably wouldnt really do anything if at all for your computer. Might feel good to you, but to your computer it just dosnt even notice it, lol.

and for casual gaming id easly recomend a XFX 4850, should handle it all, even some mild play on low end crysis settings, and it still looks good.

dude_56013 · 07-17-2009, 06:17 PM

If you are only doing casual gaming, you only need ONE 4870 (not the X2), at the most. To crossfire 2 4870s, you are looking at needing a big PSU, and to crossfire 2 4870 X2s?...well that's just over the top and probably never needed by 99.9999% of people..not to mention the PSU it'd need.

jigglyj0 · 07-18-2009, 05:35 AM

im planning to get an amd phenom 2 x4
i dont need massive amounts of power but cos i want this computer to last me a bit id rather something stronger that can also run windows 7

4GB Corsair DDR3 1600MHz C9 Twin3X
Acer 18.5-inch Wide LCD TFT Monitor
would a standard cpu cooler suffice?

im living in leeds, uk
im new here so i dont really know any of the shops selling computers hre

PokerDegenerate · 07-18-2009, 10:38 AM

well if you are only running an 18.5" monitor I don't think you will need a 4870 x2 graphics card. You can save yourself some money and just go with a 1gb 4870 if you are looking to stay with ATI. That will be more than enough for your monitor.

Yeah as long as your not overclocking the stock CPU cooler will be just fine.

I am in the US so I honestly can't help ya with the best sites in the UK to buy parts from but Im sure that someone here can.

ZackDawley · 07-25-2009, 12:57 AM

As a side note Windows 7 needs 2 GB of ram to boot in x64 (why you'd still be running 32bit is beyond me) so you might want to look at 6 or 8 GB depending if you're 2 or 3 channel for ram.

As for the gaming, it really depends on what game you want to plan for what you need.

foothead · 07-25-2009, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZackDawley

As a side note Windows 7 needs 2 GB of ram to boot in x64 (why you'd still be running 32bit is beyond me) so you might want to look at 6 or 8 GB depending if you're 2 or 3 channel for ram.

As for the gaming, it really depends on what game you want to plan for what you need.

No,4gb is plenty.
Also, AMD doesn't support triple-channel yet, so thats out of the question.

ZackDawley · 07-25-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foothead

No,4gb is plenty.
Also, AMD doesn't support triple-channel yet, so thats out of the question.

I thought AMD was going to have 3 channel support, but I guess that's why I finally got converted to Intel.

You might say 4GB is plenty, but I'm telling you that if Microsoft is recommending 4GB for Windows 7 you need double that. Just loading Windows takes up 1.7GB.

I often have 4.5 or more GB used just watching video's and streaming. Then again my computer runs really fast, and Windows 7 likes to keep everything in ram so it's not as bottlenecked with the HD's.

sniperviper21 · 07-25-2009, 08:36 AM

whats ur user experience score?

and you must have alot of crap running in the background to use 4.5GB's being used, with me playing crysis, running HD content, avast, ect, an i use about 3gigs

07-17-2009, 04:56 AM	#1
jigglyj0 Beta Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2	Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express im looking for a graphics card for a new desktop so i went to a gaming forum and they recommended this card when i googled i saw that there are radeons made by saphhire, asus and ATI. i know that ATI is the original brand but are these other brands similar? the site also recommended that i use two of those graphic cards is that necessary? i only want to do some simple gaming if its not necessary, how much of a difference would it make if i bought a lower performance graphics card to complement it? as a side note, do the higher end computer coolers actually increase performance? can't i just buy a regular fan? and blow it towards my computer?

07-17-2009, 08:44 AM	#2
PokerDegenerate Daemon Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,465	Re: Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express Well to answer your questions we would really need some more information such as: What are the specs of the rest of your computer? What is your monitor's resolution? What games do you play? Where are you located? __________________ Raidmax Smilodon Extreme Black Case -\|-AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE @ 3829.50 Mhz (18.5 x 207, vcore 1.424, NB 2600 mhz, HT link 2200 mhz) -\|- Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V -\|- Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P Mobo -\|- G. Skill 6Gb (3 x 2Gb) DDR3 1333 RAM 7-7-7-18-2t -\|- WD Caviar 7200 RPM 1 TB HDD -\|- OCZ GameXtreme 700W -\|- Radeon 4870 1Gb @ 780/1050 -\|- Asus VW202NR 20" wide-screen -\|- Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit -\|- Saitek Cyborg Keyboard -\|- Razer Lachesis Mouse

07-17-2009, 03:10 PM	#3
sniperviper21 Golden Master Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5,358	Re: Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express if it is named after an ATI product, ex, ATi makes a 4870, so does Asus and the rest, as long as it is a 4870, it is the same as any other 4870, nothing diffrent, just diffrent brands, nothing special and blowing a regular fan probably wouldnt really do anything if at all for your computer. Might feel good to you, but to your computer it just dosnt even notice it, lol. and for casual gaming id easly recomend a XFX 4850, should handle it all, even some mild play on low end crysis settings, and it still looks good. __________________ You got to have a Fiddle in the band!

07-17-2009, 06:17 PM	#4
dude_56013 Fully Optimized Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,152	Re: Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express If you are only doing casual gaming, you only need ONE 4870 (not the X2), at the most. To crossfire 2 4870s, you are looking at needing a big PSU, and to crossfire 2 4870 X2s?...well that's just over the top and probably never needed by 99.9999% of people..not to mention the PSU it'd need. __________________ Intel Core i7-2600K @ 3.4GHz \|\| GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3P-B3 \|\| Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3-1600 EVGA GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) SuperClocked 1536MB \|\| Crucial C300 64GB SSD x 2 in RAID0 \|\| WD 1TB Black HDD x 2 in RAID1 2 x Sony Opitarc 24x \|\| Fractal Design Define XL Titanium \|\| Corsair Professional Series HX 750W

07-18-2009, 05:35 AM	#5
jigglyj0 Beta Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2	Re: Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express im planning to get an amd phenom 2 x4 i dont need massive amounts of power but cos i want this computer to last me a bit id rather something stronger that can also run windows 7 4GB Corsair DDR3 1600MHz C9 Twin3X Acer 18.5-inch Wide LCD TFT Monitor would a standard cpu cooler suffice? im living in leeds, uk im new here so i dont really know any of the shops selling computers hre

07-18-2009, 10:38 AM	#6
PokerDegenerate Daemon Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,465	Re: Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express well if you are only running an 18.5" monitor I don't think you will need a 4870 x2 graphics card. You can save yourself some money and just go with a 1gb 4870 if you are looking to stay with ATI. That will be more than enough for your monitor. Yeah as long as your not overclocking the stock CPU cooler will be just fine. I am in the US so I honestly can't help ya with the best sites in the UK to buy parts from but Im sure that someone here can. __________________ Raidmax Smilodon Extreme Black Case -\|-AMD Phenom II x4 955 BE @ 3829.50 Mhz (18.5 x 207, vcore 1.424, NB 2600 mhz, HT link 2200 mhz) -\|- Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V -\|- Gigabyte MA790XT-UD4P Mobo -\|- G. Skill 6Gb (3 x 2Gb) DDR3 1333 RAM 7-7-7-18-2t -\|- WD Caviar 7200 RPM 1 TB HDD -\|- OCZ GameXtreme 700W -\|- Radeon 4870 1Gb @ 780/1050 -\|- Asus VW202NR 20" wide-screen -\|- Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit -\|- Saitek Cyborg Keyboard -\|- Razer Lachesis Mouse

07-25-2009, 12:57 AM	#7
ZackDawley Solid State Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 20	Re: Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express As a side note Windows 7 needs 2 GB of ram to boot in x64 (why you'd still be running 32bit is beyond me) so you might want to look at 6 or 8 GB depending if you're 2 or 3 channel for ram. As for the gaming, it really depends on what game you want to plan for what you need.

07-25-2009, 08:36 AM	#10
sniperviper21 Golden Master Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5,358	Re: Radeon HD4870 X2 2GB DDR5 PCI Express whats ur user experience score? and you must have alot of crap running in the background to use 4.5GB's being used, with me playing crysis, running HD content, avast, ect, an i use about 3gigs __________________ You got to have a Fiddle in the band!

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