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Old 02-17-2007, 09:04 PM   #1
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Six weeks from now, the world will get the first retail Radeon X2900 XTX

Late yesterday DailyTech was briefed on the final details for the upcoming R600 retail specifications, just in time for everyone to go on vacation for Chinese New Year. AMD has briefed its board partners on the specifications that will appear on the marketing material for the card launches.

AMD's guidance claims R600 will feature 700 million transistors. By comparison, the Radeon X1900 series R580 GPU incorporated 384 million transistors into its design; the half-generation before that, R520, only featured 320 million.

As disclosed by DailyTech earlier this year, the GPU features a full 512-bit memory interface with support for GDDR3 and GDDR4. R580 was also similar in this regard as it supported GDDR3 and GDDR4.

On March 30, 2007, AMD will initially debut the R600 as the ATI Radeon X2900 XTX in two separate configurations: one for OEMs and another for retail. The OEM version is the full length 12" card that will appear in high-end systems.

ATI guidance claims the X2900 XTX retail card comes as a two-slot, 9.5" design with a vapor chamber cooler. Vapor chambers are already found on high-end CPU coolers, so it would be no surprise to see such cooling on a high-end GPU either. The OEM version of the card is a 12" layout and features a quiet fan cooler.

1GB of GDDR4 memory is the reference configuration for Radeon X2900 XTX. Memory on the reference X2900 XTX cards was supplied by Samsung.

Approximately one month later, the company will launch the GDDR3 version of the card. This card, dubbed the Radeon X2900 XT, features 512MB of GDDR3 and lower clock frequencies than the X2900 XTX. The X2900 XT is also one of the first Radeons to feature heatpipes on the reference design.

AMD anticipates the target driver for X2900 XT to be Catalyst 8.36. WHQL release of the X2900 XTX drive will appear around the Ides of March.

Radeon X2900 will feature native CrossFire support via an internal bridge interface -- there is no longer a need for the external cable found on the Radeon X1000 series CrossFire. There is no Master card, as was the case with other high-end CrossFire setups. Any Radeon X2900 can act as the Master card.

A much anticipated feature, native HDMI, will appear on all three versions of Radeon X2900.

One 6-pin and one 8-pin (2x4) VGA power connectors are featured on Radeon X2900, but both connectors are also backwards compatible with 6-pin power supply cables.

AMD claims the R600 target schedule will be a hard launch -- availability is expected to be immediate. Board partners will be able to demonstrate R600 at CeBIT 2007 (March 15 - 21), but the only available cards will be reference designs.

Why was there such discrepancy with the board layouts and designs up until now? An ATI insider, who wished to remain nameless, states "The original Quad-Stealth design is what we build the R600 on: GDDR4, full-length and dual-slot cooling. As the silicon further revised, [ATI] took up several alternative designs which eventually included GDDR3 and heatpipes into the specification. The release cards demonstrate the versatility of R600 in each of these unique setups."

Final clock frequencies will likely remain estimates until later this month.
Sounds like it has enough stuff to beat the 8800GTX. Hopefully the price won't be outrageous though.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:12 PM   #2
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Here's the link guys:
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Release...rticle6138.htm

I thought it was going to be the X2800 though...guess not.
NATIVE HDMI!!!!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All I can say is that I am pumped. Too bad they didn't release a price...it's probably going to be insanely high. And some actual pictures would be nice.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:15 PM   #3
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Yeah the price...not looking forward to that.
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I already know I wont be able to afford this, so I just want to know what they have planned for mid-range cards.
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Old 02-17-2007, 11:43 PM   #5
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The Mid-Range from NVIDIA and ATI needs to come out soon. ATI is known for generally having more product selection, while NVIDIA has better performing products. So long as either company provides a good price, I'll buy, although I'll favor ATI as I have a 32x CF motherboard...
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ATI has always had VERY powerful high-end products, but they seem to have trouble targeting the mid-range area, which is where NVIDIA reigns. You still can't beat the price, performance and reliability of the 7600's. Heck, the same went for the 6600 before the 7600's came along.
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I cant almost guarantee its going to be $599.
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Generally NVIDIA releases a very powerful high end card, then ATI counters with a better product, then NVIDIA, then ATI, etc etc, but ATI has more product selection, but like i also said, NVIDIA generally has better performing products, and to expand off of this, especially in the mid-range area. The 6 series was amazing, the 6800 series dominated ATI in the mid-range.

The R600 better not be $600 though, if it is, I'm waiting that extra month for the gimped version. Whether or not is beats the 8800GTX or not i do not care, i can just CF them and call ti even. With 32x bandwidth between my PCI-e slots, it should compensate. 512Mb of GDDR3 is nice no matter what, even lowered clock speeds. It still had that 512 memory bandwidth, which will give it an immense edge over the 8800GTS 640MB.

I just hope each company prices their products accordingly. What i mean by this is yes, we still have high end performing DX9 cards, e.g 79xx and X19xx, but what they must account for is that these are OBSOLETE products. DX10 replaces them, they must release an entirely new branch of products, so that the customers aren't flooded with $400 video cards out the ass.

If either company has any bit of intelligence, they'll drop their old cards ASAP and deliver new products ASAP as well. As they say, "Out with the old, in with the new."
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Generally NVIDIA releases a very powerful high end card, then ATI counters with a better product, then NVIDIA, then ATI, etc etc, but ATI has more product selection, but like i also said, NVIDIA generally has better performing products, and to expand off of this, especially in the mid-range area. The 6 series was amazing, the 6800 series dominated ATI in the mid-range.

The R600 better not be $600 though, if it is, I'm waiting that extra month for the gimped version. Whether or not is beats the 8800GTX or not i do not care, i can just CF them and call ti even. With 32x bandwidth between my PCI-e slots, it should compensate. 512Mb of GDDR3 is nice no matter what, even lowered clock speeds. It still had that 512 memory bandwidth, which will give it an immense edge over the 8800GTS 640MB.

I just hope each company prices their products accordingly. What i mean by this is yes, we still have high end performing DX9 cards, e.g 79xx and X19xx, but what they must account for is that these are OBSOLETE products. DX10 replaces them, they must release an entirely new branch of products, so that the customers aren't flooded with $400 video cards out the ass.

If either company has any bit of intelligence, they'll drop their old cards ASAP and deliver new products ASAP as well. As they say, "Out with the old, in with the new."
Heh, I'd be happy if it was $600 at release. The 8800GTX was about that, right? And how much better is this? It still costs from $550-$600.
I'll probably wait until their first price drop/updated drivers, and then shell out for it. The best thing that could happen is the nVidia releases like the 8600 around that time, and forces ATI to drop the price and release another card.

IMO, the average user isn't really going to care about getting DirectX 10. It's not really a big deal to them. As long as the computer word processes, checks their e-mail, goes online, and plays solitaire, they'll be happy.
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Last time i had an ATI card was yeeears ago and i blew it up lol, im sorely tempted by the 8800GTX's but i think if i fork out any money itll be for a core duo.
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