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Old 07-28-2010, 02:09 AM   #1
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Well my birthday is coming up soon and I wanted a gaming desktop to play games much better than they do on my laptop. Unfortunately I don't know what should go into a gaming desktop, could anyone recommend what parts I should put into the desktop for top performance for all Steam games and computer games.
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It all depends on the resolution your going to be playing at.

But the emphasis will be on the graphics card. And right now the GTX 460 is the absolute minimum you wanna look at.
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It all depends on the resolution your going to be playing at.

But the emphasis will be on the graphics card. And right now the GTX 460 is the absolute minimum you wanna look at.
Absolute minimum? No. Especially for the majority of games on steam.
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Absolute minimum? No. Especially for the majority of games on steam.
but then again....it's the [i]perfect[i] gaming desktop.

I wouldn't expect any less either
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Well my birthday is coming up soon and I wanted a gaming desktop to play games much better than they do on my laptop. Unfortunately I don't know what should go into a gaming desktop, could anyone recommend what parts I should put into the desktop for top performance for all Steam games and computer games.
Do you have a budget we can work with to help you out?
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:17 AM   #6
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Budget is $1000-$2100 well not the perfect desktop per say, but atleast well enough so I can play games to their full potential if. Hopefully that makes sense.
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Well if you want a high end gaming rig, Reminez is right... the emphasis will be on the graphics card. But you also dont want to forget about having a good amount of memory (RAM) and a beastly CPU. Here are a few rules to go buy when looking for desktop parts for gaming:

CPU:
try to get something at least clocked at 3 GHZ and a multiple core processor for sure. I myself have a AMD phenom 2 955 clocked at 3.2 ghz and that things awesome for running games. Its a beastly quad core. Idk much about Intel processors but I guess the i7 is where its at for gaming. I would do some research into amd and intel and see what suits you best.

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DDR 3, low latency, and a decent clock (1600 mhz) at least 4 GB

Graphics Card:
This is where it gets kinda messy, finding a good card is hard but you said "perfect" gaming machine so try to get something that has at least 1GB of memory GDDR5 preferably, PCI express 2.0 and at the very least 800 processor cores.

You also want to make sure you have a good motherboard that supports all your parts and a good hard drive (1TB?) to store all your game files on. Games these days are huge! Hope this helps a bit.
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Thanks that does help, I was thinking of an Nvidia graphics card, because that's a recommended graphics card for alot of steam games. Is that a graphics card I can rely on?
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To be fair with a budget of $1000-$2100 the world is your oyster and both ATI and nVidia provide excellent high-end GPU solutions.

CPU? Intel or AMD will work for you.

GPU? Well if I had a budget like that for a gaming machine i'd want at least a HD 5870. But me being me would consider the HD5970. Other's may disagree.

And as mentioned previously 4GB/6GB 1600Mhz RAM with a quad core CPU and a 750W PSU and your done.

Just wrap it all up in a nice case.
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To be fair with a budget of $1000-$2100 the world is your oyster and both ATI and nVidia provide excellent high-end GPU solutions.

CPU? Intel or AMD will work for you.

GPU? Well if I had a budget like that for a gaming machine i'd want at least a HD 5870. But me being me would consider the HD5970. Other's may disagree.

And as mentioned previously 4GB/6GB 1600Mhz RAM with a quad core CPU and a 750W PSU and your done.

Just wrap it all up in a nice case.
a 5970 would be half of his budget. I'd go with either a 5870 or a gtx 470, whichever he can find for a lower price. I'd also suggest the US version of NCIX.com. They pricematch pretty much everything and they ship very quickly (I ordered last night and it was shipped this morning)
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Thanks guys all the suggestions are EXTREMELY helpful, also the budget is from $1-$2100 just to clarify thanks again
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Ok I'm thinking this

CPU-Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6600 2.4 Ghz

Memory-DDR 3 1600 Mhz

Graphics Card-Nvidia Geforce GTX 280

Can anyone give me some help with this setup my birthday is coming up, so the faster the better!
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Ok I'm thinking this

CPU-Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6600 2.4 Ghz

Memory-DDR 3 1600 Mhz

Graphics Card-Nvidia Geforce GTX 280

Can anyone give me some help with this setup my birthday is coming up, so the faster the better!
Hang on. You have a budget of $2100. Go with an AMD AM3 or Intel i7 set up. Then at least 3/4GB 1600Mhz RAM depending on which platform you go with then you need at least a HD 5870 graphics card. Add a 650W PSU and that's better start than an old LGA775 rig.
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I'm thinking of an Intel i7 but which would you prefer and I'm thinking 4gb 1600 Mhz and what makes the HD 5870 better than the Nvidia? Really guys thanks this helps sooo much
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I'm thinking of an Intel i7 but which would you prefer and I'm thinking 4gb 1600 Mhz and what makes the HD 5870 better than the Nvidia? Really guys thanks this helps sooo much
The HD5870 pwns the GTX 280. If you want an nVidia card then go with the GTX 460 at least.

4GB is fine with dual channel AMD and Socket 1156 Intel platforms. If you go with the Socket 1366 i7's then you'll need triple channel 3GB or 6GB RAM.
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What is a dual channel AMD? How can I tell if it is a dual channel and is it better than other, in other words should I get a dual channel over something else?

Ok I'm thing the HD 5870 with a Dual-Channel DDR2-800 on AMD Athlon 64 X2 AM2 with 4 GB RAM
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Personally, I'd be building a rig on the P55 chipset. X58, and Hxx are not cost-effective right now.

I7-860 (1156)
Evga P55 SLI
4GB OCZ PC3-12800
SLI GTX 465's (some 1GB models can have their SPU's unlocked to 448 (14SM total count)
Corsair HX/TX 850
And a MT/FT case of choice.

EDIT: And since the QPI is in place on the P55, you could even go with PC3-14400 or PC3-16000 and OC it up. But I imagine with the right PC3-12800, it could OC up to 2000MHz.


Ok, so I can clear some things up for you: You're most likely talking about a dual core AMD processor - Otherwise seen as an "x2" processor. No to be confused with "P(henom)II" which is the processors "family". Anyways, to build a good rig for gaming these days, and to remain future-proof, it's always a good idea to start with at least a quad core. Which for AMD would be seen as an "x4"

I suppose another misconception I should clear up is clockspeed.
Clockspeed is important, but should not be the primary determining factor. Look at the number of physical cores, and the number of hyperthreads (for Intel) For instance, the I7 (1156 and 1366) have 4 physical cores, but each core is hyperthreaded which means the core can do approximately double the workload. So, in the OS, the workload monitor (Task Manager for Windows) will show 8 cores doing work.
But even more important than cores is socket type. Right now, there are four big players in sockets.

AM3 (PhenomII x2, PhenomII x4, PhenomII x6) - AMD
LGA775 (Core2, Pentium Dual, Celeron Dual and a few others) - Intel
LGA1156 (Core i3, Core i5, and Corei7 (8xx)) - Intel
LGA1366 which is strictly Corei7 9xx for the moment - Intel

Socket type can give you an idea of recent the technology is. Unfortunately, it takes a little background knowledge to fully understand why each socket is different and why it is better for certain things over others.

There are several aspects of processors that are very important (though minuscule) to watch for and pick carefully. There are actually almost too many to explain in one post.
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4GB is fine with dual channel AMD and Socket 1156 Intel platforms. If you go with the Socket 1366 i7's then you'll need triple channel 3GB or 6GB RAM.
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That's my bad gamma, sorry. What I meant was 4GB RAM, 2X2GB, is fine for the AMD and Socket 1156 platforms with 'their' dual channel arrangement.

Good stuff Grantofhell although I feel that the 1366 i7 is still a bargain for the performance you get.
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Heres one that you can look at,Its $2,046.88 (without shipping).Throw in the 5970 because its a gaming rig.You could drop the 5970 and get the 5870 so that you can have a SSD for your OS.If you dont really care for boot time nor response time than forget the SSD and get the 5970.

CPU/Motherboard-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.470501)
Case/OS-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...504.11-119-230)
CPU Cooler-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103057)
Memory-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145284) Make just for AMD Black edition
PSU-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171049)
Harddrive-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136533)
Video Card-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150460)
DVD/CD Burner-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135209)
Thermal Paste-(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835100007) Never use the paste that comes with CPU cooler it sucks.

hope this helps.This would be one bad a$$ computer.
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I wouldnt recommend gtx 465s as they're weaker than the 460 1GB's and they cant be unlocked anymore (PNY didnt laser cut the disabled dies and they finally caught on).

So i put a list together for you that I feel would give you more performance than a single 5970.

Core i7-930

ASUS P6X58D-E

G-Skill Pi (really low timings and voltages)

2x MSI GTX 470s in SLI

3x 500GB WD caviar blacks in RAID 5 (you can get larger sizes for a few more bucks but I wouldnt recommend it because then you'd have multiple platters which would be slower)

Antec TPQ 1000W PSU

Silverstone FT02

LG DVD burner

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM

The total for all of that would be $2044 before shipping. I based a lot of those parts on personal experience (the hard drives and motherboard mainly). The other build with the 5970 was also pretty good except that you'd have to do some price cuts to include windows in that cost.

The processor comes with a basic heatsink but I'd recommend buying one thats a bit better. The Hyper N520 is a very good one for the price (dont buy from newegg though as its overpriced there. If you want to go for a really good one then get the corsair H50. If theres a microcenter near where you live then get the i7 from there as its cheaper (if they have the i7-920 in stock then get it and save $100)
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