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Old 05-12-2004, 09:05 PM   #1
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Default The pentium M vs. the pentium 4

I have a question that noone seems to know the answer to so maybe you guys/gals can help. Im thinking about buying a notebook from dell, but its mosty for school but its also going to be used to run this program called S e r a t o Scratch live. Now this program needs a really good processor, how does the the pentium M 1.4GHz (or i could get the 1.8) compare to a Pentium 4 2.8 GHz processor?? Are they the same, ones a lot better, or they are about the same??? if anyone could help it would be much appreciated. heres the website with some more info that might help. (im looking at the 600m or the 300m but i wont get them if the program i want wont run smooth like silk) http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=04&l=en&s=bsd
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http://www.rane.com/scratch.html
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Old 05-13-2004, 01:25 AM   #2
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Get a 2.4+ i say you can get them from dell so i would go for just a P4 not P4m.
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P4 M is lighter probably, smaller, but far more expensive and will give no more power or reliablity. It is just more 'Mobile' Get the P4.
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but i think you guys have mistaken the p4m to the M there is actually a pentium processor thats just M not p4m but M, what do you guys think of that one
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What the devil is that? There's not a Intel Mobile? Do you mean Centrino? Or Athlon M?
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im not sure thats why i asked which one is better because i never heard of the M one they have on there site u can check it out at www.dell.com its on the dell 600m and the new dell 300m, if anyone can help thanks alot
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Its the centrenio processor.No unless you doing a lot of network and internet releated then buy the pentuim 4.
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Yeah, its the Centrino. Get the Pentium 4.
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I think the centrino only goes to 1.7 thats pretty bad.
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Yeah, Centrinos are about 1Ghz behind if not more. They're only good if you are litterally a Laptop Freak and you want that sort of thing where its light and small and makes less heat and sound.
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The second genaration Pentium M aka" Dothan" will be up to 2ghz. The Dell Latitude D800 has it in it. Go for that if you want a longer battery life and more power. They have a good review at cnet.com, go to "notebooks". That should answer all your ???'s. peace
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I meant if your bent on getting a Dothan. The second-generation Pentium M processors will be faster soon, if you wanna wait.
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Yeah, depends if you want to wait.
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The M processor is faster then a standard processor running at the same GHz by a long shot.

Remember the fastest, most powerful computer in the world are Sun Sparcstations and these only run 1.28GHz. It's a different architecture, same goes for the Centrino chip. It is slower then a P4 in GHz but processes information more efficiently then a P4.

It is also scaled down to meet the needs of a laptop. Scaled down, I mean a regular P4 chip has a lot stuff in there to support a number of applications from being used a server to CAD workstation to gaming. While the Centrino chip is scaled down to support only items required on a laptop. Another reason it is scaled down is to conserve energy and help manage energy. Plus laptop are not gaming or server demaned, so having all of the power is not necessary.

Also for you AMD freaks. Is an AMD chip just as fast as a Pentium, based on GHz alone?...not even close. Because the fastest P4 runs at 3.40GHz while the AMD only runs at 2.4GHz (64 FX-53). And why does AMD market their processors such as XP 3200+ or 64 3400? Because people don't understand speed of a processor. Which one would you rather buy an Intel Pentium 4 at 3.40GHz or an AMD XP 2.20GHz processor? Hint...they run at approximately the speed exact speed. That is why AMD markets the XP 2.2GHz chip as the Athlon XP 3400+ so it doesn't lose sales to Intel for a similar processor.

So don't be quick to judge a processor by the GHz speed.
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Also for you AMD freaks. Is an AMD chip just as fast as a Pentium, based on GHz alone?...not even close. Because the fastest P4 runs at 3.40GHz while the AMD only runs at 2.4GHz (64 FX-53). And why does AMD market their processors such as XP 3200+ or 64 3400? Because people don't understand speed of a processor. Which one would you rather buy an Intel Pentium 4 at 3.40GHz or an AMD XP 2.20GHz processor? Hint...they run at approximately the speed exact speed. That is why AMD markets the XP 2.2GHz chip as the Athlon XP 3400+ so it doesn't lose sales to Intel for a similar processor.

So don't be quick to judge a processor by the GHz speed.
Its a point - and shows that Intel are the best - because it is AMD which has to line its Advertising against Intel and not Intel against AMD.

Its a shame Intel didn't get 64-bits out before AMD - then I could have brought an Intel instead. My soul would ahve felt much better that way.
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