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Old 03-01-2010, 02:57 AM   #21
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You don't need a hack. it just works.
didnt Nvida come up with a patch to keep there cards from being used as Physics cards when an ATI card is the main GPU?


and what? x1 has more then a regular PCI?
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Yeah it does. PCI is 133Mbps IIRC.

There are numerous ways around the PhysX thing, but that is only PhysX.

The two cards can coexist as video cards still.

EDIT: I *think* PCIe 2.0 is 240 Mbps per lane, but I am unsure of that.
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so i thought ^^^


but isnt the x1 slot the smallest slot in that pic?

and isnt regular PCI slots (that the cards i posted go to) the bigger one, ?
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I'd check the power usage on the cards before you go adding anything. You're already running a fairly power-hungry system from a crappy PSU.

And actually, 66Mhz PCI has higher bandwidth than PCIe x1. (266.7 MB/s)
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I'd check the power usage on the cards before you go adding anything. You're already running a fairly power-hungry system from a crappy PSU.

And actually, 66Mhz PCI has higher bandwidth than PCIe x1.
Rosewell arnt all crappy, FYI
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and isnt regular PCI slots (that the cards i posted go to) the bigger one, ?

Yes so? We are talking putting x16 cards in the x1 slots.

x1 still has higher bandwidth, and its usually on a single bus, so that bandwidth is shared.

Rosewill is Newegg house brand. Actually quite good for a budget PSU.

Mutant Corn: That is download speed right? Because IIRC, PCIe operates at 133 MHz, and there is no way PCI transfers more per clock.
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Yes so? We are talking putting x16 cards in the x1 slots.
now that im confused as hell...
no where does those cards say x16...


i thought X16 was only for PCI E x16 2.0 slots
as in thats what my 4850 runs on

SOOO

your saying that if i bought those cards i posted, and put them in my extra PCI slots (the long slots that ARNT 2.0) that those cards would be hard core bottle necked?
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Rosewell arnt all crappy, FYI
You have two +12v rails at 18 amps each. Not so good for high-current situations like this.

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Mutant Corn: That is download speed right? Because IIRC, PCIe operates at 133 MHz, and there is no way PCI transfers more per clock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Computer_buses

Granted, many cards only support 33mhz.
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You have two +12v rails at 18 amps each. Not so good for high-current situations like this.
hows that high current using a low end card for folding



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now that im confused as hell...
no where does those cards say x16...


i thought X16 was only for PCI E x16 2.0 slots
as in thats what my 4850 runs on

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your saying that if i bought those cards i posted, and put them in my extra PCI slots (the long slots that ARNT 2.0) that those cards would be hard core bottle necked?
yep PCI bottlenecks cards that powerful, though for folding it'd be ok.

Get a 2.0 x16 card for a lot cheaper, cut the back outta your x1 slots, and pop 'em in there. Higher bandwidth, cheaper, and they will still be useful when you get a board with more x16 slots.

I am actually now considering making a dedicated folding machine with my old ECS mobo. I could run four PCIe cards in it and two PCI ones. thoughts?
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