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06-04-2005, 08:56 PM
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Overheat, Overheat!
I know this is the umpteenth time I have posted about my heat prob but here goes. OK, so pretty much all of you said to get some thermal paste and a new heatsink, right? Okay, so I go to Computer Stop and ask them, and they agreed that I had a heat prob, so I buy some nice compatible heatsink/fan combo. I go home, install it (I didn't redo the paste, is there a problem with new sink and old(er) paste?), and I start up my compie. I go into BIOS for heat stuff, and it says 32 C. Ok, good start, so I start up my computer, start up MBM and WHHHHAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT??????????????????????????? ????? The temperature had not changed 1 degree FARENHEIT (167)!!!!!! What the HECK is the matter  ??!?!?! Did I do something wrong??? PLEASE HELP!!!!
Note:Sry to setishock (sry about spelling if it is wrong) about double posting, I will try not to again  .
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06-04-2005, 09:02 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
Your bios says that it is 32C then the MBM says that it is a lot more.
Uninstall the mbm and google for "speed fan" a free monitoring utillity. Don't do anything fancy with this as you can really damage your system. All you want to do is monitor the fans and temps and see what it says.
It could be that the MBM sensor is out of sync and not reading true temps. I don't think that you have ever mentioned that your bios reads as 32C before.
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06-04-2005, 09:05 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
Are you suggesting that mbm is crudding or controlling my sensors?? Everest detects the same readings.
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06-04-2005, 09:05 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
I would have also reapplied the thermal paste since when you installed the new heatsink since some of the paste would have come off with the old one, and it would have dried, and so won't conduct properly.
I would advise to get some and do this again, but don't put too much on, just enough to cover the chip with a rather thin layer
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06-04-2005, 09:06 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
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Originally Posted by Marshillboy
Okay, so I go to Computer Stop and ask them, and they agreed that I had a heat prob, so I buy some nice compatible heatsink/fan combo. I go home, install it (I didn't redo the paste, is there a problem with new sink and old(er) paste?), and I start up my compie. I go into BIOS for heat stuff, and it says 32 C. Ok, good start, so I start up my computer, start up MBM and WHHHHAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT??????????????????????????? ????? The temperature had not changed 1 degree FARENHEIT (167)!!!!!! What the HECK is the matter  ??!?!?! Did I do something wrong??? PLEASE HELP!!!!
Note:Sry to setishock (sry about spelling if it is wrong) about double posting, I will try not to again  .
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This bit here intrigues me...
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I go home, install it (I didn't redo the paste, is there a problem with new sink and old(er) paste?),
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Why didn't you apply new thermal grease?, this is a must for new heatsink installs.
You must have a deathwish for that cpu...
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06-04-2005, 09:08 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
Speedfan detects 167 F as well...
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06-04-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
Yeah I got a bit worried about that too, stated above
I'd buy some new thermal paste if i were you Marshillboy
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06-04-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
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This bit here intrigues me...
Why didn't you apply new thermal grease?, this is a must for new heatsink installs.
You must have a deathwish for that cpu...
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Ur kidding? Would it make a few C diff? EDIT:I HAVE paste...just...didnt...uhm....er...you....see...us e...it...kinda...
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06-04-2005, 09:14 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
I agree with the thermal...just more intrigued as to why bios reads one thing and everything else reads hotter. Unless you are misreading the readings in the bios.
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06-04-2005, 09:14 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
SOOOOO...should I try an install again? (PS:How do you remove and apply that stuff?)
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06-04-2005, 09:15 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
Yeah! It'll make alot of difference, trust me...thats what connects the CPU to the heatsink to get hot air to flow in the first place!  Apply it!
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06-04-2005, 09:19 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
WOW TY guys!!! brb with a cooler PC...
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06-04-2005, 09:20 PM
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you can use a razor to scrape it off but be sure not to gouge the heatsink. As to the chip it should be carefully cleaned with asoft rag and maybe just a dab of alcohol to soften it up. Just be sure to let it set so as to air dry the alchohol. When applying the new thermal paste...just a dab will do. Take just a spot on the chip so as that it will only cover the small mounting area. You do not want this to spread all over the place.
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06-04-2005, 09:25 PM
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wombat, I actually saw a heatsink glued to the chip with a hotglue stick. This was driving me nuts as when it heated up the glue would heatup also and release and then when the computer was cooled a bit the glue would adhear to the chip. Finally realized what was happening when I went to remove the chip and saw that it was glued to the socket. This was done by a teenager that took some computer classes and was messing around with MOM's computer. Needless to say that MOM was not a happy camper when I showed her what happened to her computer. LOL
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06-04-2005, 09:28 PM
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Describe how is the airflow of your case...
and put that new thermal paste...
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06-04-2005, 09:43 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
Yea air flow is important as well.
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06-04-2005, 10:07 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
LADEEZ and GEENTELMEN (intentional misspelling), may I present to you:MBM 5, the cruddiest piece of crudware to roam the internet. MBM gave me readings that were not only off the charts (and thus false, try 167 F on for size lol), but it cause my computer to thus cut speed in half, which I propose is the source of my problem. And so I can save 30 bucks on some cruddy heatsink/thermal paste. I love happy endings....(In other words, if you have MBM, UNINSTALL NOWWWW!)
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06-04-2005, 10:11 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
not really....ive used it and it has worked perfectly well for me. And please try to keep your sig to a 5 line maximum.
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06-04-2005, 10:13 PM
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Re: Overheat, Overheat!
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LADEEZ and GEENTELMEN (intentional misspelling), may I present to you:MBM 5, the cruddiest piece of crudware to roam the internet. MBM gave me readings that were not only off the charts (and thus false, try 167 F on for size lol), but it cause my computer to thus cut speed in half, which I propose is the source of my problem. And so I can save 30 bucks on some cruddy heatsink/thermal paste. I love happy endings....(In other words, if you have MBM, UNINSTALL NOWWWW!)
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Which is what I told you to do in this post here, (your first post with the overheating problem)
http://computerforums.org/showthread.php?t=15575
this post is now gone by the way..
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06-04-2005, 10:14 PM
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Glad to hear that you got it worked out. I don't think that it is MBM at fault as speed fan gave the same readings....
I think that you have a bad sensor and was getting false readings that way. The bios reading comes from a different sensor that is built into the chip itself.
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