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Old 04-23-2010, 06:25 PM   #11
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To be fair you'd have to have serious heart trouble/defects before a TV's HT circuit kills you but it's very painful and can cause burns should you get caught out.
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Old 04-23-2010, 06:29 PM   #12
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To be fair you'd have to have serious heart trouble/defects before a TV's HT circuit kills you but it's very painful and can cause burns should you get caught out.
It's possible, and an AC unit is usually much more powerful. This person also did not say how old they were.
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To be fair you'd have to have serious heart trouble/defects before a TV's HT circuit kills you but it's very painful and can cause burns should you get caught out.
What I have always been told is that it can kill you if it catches your heart at exactly the right point in the beat. Either way, it can seriously screw you up.
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Understood.

I just found this article. You have more chance dying by coming into contact with the live AC mains PSU inside a TV, or any other mains operate item, rather than the tube HT circuit.
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Understood.

I just found this article. You have more chance dying by coming into contact with the live AC mains PSU inside a TV, or any other mains operate item, rather than the tube HT circuit.
9 inch CRT? No thanks, give me some accurate measurements of discharge on something more realistic. Most CRT TVs are 19-27 inches. Big difference.

I know what these things are capable of btw. I have the flyback circuit extracted from an old 13 inch compaq CRT monitor for my tesla coils, and even they are something not to play around with. It can actually make a fluorescent bulb light up from a foot away.
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"TVs and computer or video monitors are among the more dangerous of consumer electronic equipment when it comes to servicing. (Microwave ovens are probably the most hazardous due to high voltage at flesh frying and cardiac arresting high power.)
There are two areas which have particularly nasty electrical dangers: the non-isolated line power supply and the CRT high voltage.

Major parts of nearly all modern TVs and many computer monitors are directly connected to the AC line - there is no power transformer to provide the essential barrier for safety and to minimize the risk of equipment damage. In the majority of designs, the live parts of the TV or monitor are limited to the AC input and line filter, degauss circuit, bridge rectifier and main filter capacitor(s), low voltage (B+) regulator (if any), horizontal output transistor and primary side of the flyback (LOPT) transformer, and parts of the startup circuit and standby power supply. The flyback generates most of the other voltages used in the unit and provides an isolation barrier so that the signal circuits are not line connected and safer.

Since a bridge rectifier is generally used in the power supply, both directions of the polarized plug result in dangerous conditions and an isolation transformer really should be used - to protect you, your test equipment, and the TV, from serious damage. Some TVs do not have any isolation barrier whatsoever - the entire chassis is live. These are particularly nasty.

The high voltage to the CRT, while 200 times greater than the line input, is not nearly as dangerous for several reasons. First, it is present in a very limited area of the TV or monitor - from the output of the flyback to the CRT anode via the fat red wire and suction cup connector. If you don't need to remove the mainboard or replace the flyback or CRT, then leave it alone and it should not bite. Furthermore, while the shock from the HV can be quite painful due to the capacitance of the CRT envelope, it is not nearly as likely to be lethal since the current available from the line connected power supply is much greater."

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It's similar to why people survive lighting strikes but electricians die from mains PSU's etc.
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If it's simple electronic stuff then don't worry about getting shocked or anything. I mean, you can open stuff like old radios or old game consoles or whatever without risk of getting shocked, I've done it before. In fact, I've had my ps2 all apart and put back together and still works like new. Don't be afraid to explore, just be careful when you are doing it. Also make sure it's stuff that doesn't work anymore.....lol
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