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Old 04-18-2008, 07:51 PM   #1
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Default Ok, so upgrading CPU, Ram, Mobo need help

Ok so I was looking at some upgrades from my old AMD Atholon 64 3800+ X2 Dual core, 2gig ram and my Landparty UT ultra

so this is what I was looking at.

Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813128059

My friend told me not to get that one but this one
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813188012

This is the CPU I was looking at
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115017

This is what he recommend instead
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115028

He said quad cores overheat and aren't worth getting.

And this is the Ram
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820227270

so yea, any help would be great. Thanks
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Old 04-19-2008, 01:54 AM   #2
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Don't get the sli mobo unless you plan on running dual graphics cards. Theres a few people on here that swear over those P35 boards, but I have no experience with them. Also heard good things about this mobo

I'd definantly get the quad. Q6600 The stock fan shold be fine, but if not throw like a new heatsink and fan on.

This kit
is good and cheaper. You get the same ram just different heat spreaders. I don't know too much about them. But in no way can I imagine your ram getting hot enough you'd need it, if it is even better.


And uhh, what do you use this computer for?
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Old 04-19-2008, 07:00 AM   #3
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Don't get the sli mobo unless you plan on running dual graphics cards. Theres a few people on here that swear over those P35 boards, but I have no experience with them. Also heard good things about this mobo
QFT, Nvidia boards cannot reach the high FSB speeds that the P35/X38 can and are only worth it if you are running SLI, not to mention they are way overpriced. That MSI is a very good board, get that if you can afford it over the Gigabyte.
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This is the CPU I was looking at
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115017

This is what he recommend instead
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819115028

He said quad cores overheat and aren't worth getting.
Quad cores don/t overheat. But you should only consider one of you are doing lots of CPU intensive tasks (video editing/encoding etc) otherwise, apps usually benefit more from a higher clocked dual cores as they are not multi-threaded. Don't get the E6850 though, it has just been replaced by the 45nm Wolfdale C2Ds. The E8400 is the best option: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037
OCZ actually have some better RAM on Newegg for a cheaper price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227267
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I'd definantly get the quad.
It depends on what he is doing.
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You seem to be wiser than your friend. Stick w/ worshipme, he has good recommendations.

However, I would choose the quad if you will be doing more than just gaming. It's faster at most tasks overall. I'm comparing the Q6600@3.2 vs. e8400@3.6.
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I heard SLI isn't even worth it for what you pay for two cards and the minor increase in performance. I would like to SLI if it was worth it, but if it isn't than forget that.

I have the 8800 GTS 640mb superclocked

I do not have a price limit, and this is mainly for gaming and I use minor apps pretty much just adobe.

I have the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme for a heatsink atm.
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If it's mainly for gaming then stick with the E8400, there are some benchmarks here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...0_9.html#sect0
You should ignore synthetic benchmarks like 3DMark though.
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If it's mainly for gaming then stick with the E8400, there are some benchmarks here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...0_9.html#sect0
You should ignore synthetic benchmarks like 3DMark though.
So for the mobo this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130098

this for CPU (why is this cheaper than the E6850 is it cause it comes with a game?)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037

and for RAM (again why is this cheaper than the one I posted, but better?)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227267

so yea is it worth to SLI also? And is it possible to overclock intel's? I have only had AMD cause people said those were the best to OC, but since I have this big ass heatsink I would like to OC if possible.

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this for CPU (why is this cheaper than the E6850 is it cause it comes with a game?)
45nm parts are cheaper to produce than 65nm parts.
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and for RAM (again why is this cheaper than the one I posted, but better?)
I'm not sure why this kit is cheaper TBH, but it has better cooling as the kit you were going to buy and it runs at 800MHz with CAS 4 timings. I'm sure it will overclock very nicely too.
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so yea is it worth to SLI also?
SLI is only worth it if you are buying two top end cards, and you want the best performance money can buy at this moment in time. It is pointless paying so much for two very expensive cards when there will be something faster available in the next six months. A single 8800/3800 card can play almost everything available right now.
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And is it possible to overclock intel's?
Yes! The C2Ds are great overclockers, the 45nms even more so. 4.3GHz for the E8400!!
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45nm parts are cheaper to produce than 65nm parts.

I'm not sure why this kit is cheaper TBH, but it has better cooling as the kit you were going to buy and it runs at 800MHz with CAS 4 timings. I'm sure it will overclock very nicely too.

SLI is only worth it if you are buying two top end cards, and you want the best performance money can buy at this moment in time. It is pointless paying so much for two very expensive cards when there will be something faster available in the next six months. A single 8800/3800 card can play almost everything available right now.

Yes! The C2Ds are great overclockers, the 45nms even more so. 4.3GHz for the E8400!!
THANKS!

I am going to order the above parts.

So with this setup I should be set for a year or so.

EDIT:

my friend just said the Intel based boards (MSI i guess) isn't good for OC cause he said you have to run the OC programs every time you start up windows, and with the nforce its in the bios.

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