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Old 02-16-2005, 04:10 PM   #11
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well i dont watch dvd's on my computer now its to old and crappy (p2 400mhz 256mb ram). but the movies i deal with are for www.3si.org and www.supraforums.com i do all the ftp stuff and edit movies and making them constantly. but i only picked a gig of ram i dont think 2 would be needed. but im not looking to keep this computer for only a year im looking for atleast 5yrs+ ive had this one im on now since 98 and works good but just running hard for what i do. my friend says with a 6600 i should have more then enough for a video card. so thats wat i was looking at to get.also ive looked at dell for them to build a PC for me and it came out over 5k and i have less then what i have listed. also this really doesnt have to be a 4k PC cuz i have a monitor,keyboard,mouse,speakers,webcam,mic but they are also dated and getting iffy on working. so that knocks the price down almost 1100 bucks so its more like 2900. then if i wanted less i could lose 1 raptor and 1 300gig so thats 2600 then. but since u all suggest a different CPU wat do u think i should get? also for "SLI" mobo can u put only 1 vid card or 2 crapper ones in there and it be ok? or does it need some special cards. srry for the long post but its ?'s i have
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:17 PM   #12
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You don't need sli so don't worry about it, it is only for gamers. Yea a 6600 would be fine but since you have the money just get a leadtech 6800GT. It will last you awhile and cools very well. I don't want to stop you from getting what you want. A good cpu would be the Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester core. Deicide if you are going pci express or agp. Just get what you want but just make sure it just isnt overkill.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:06 PM   #13
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[color=black]OOOH! GOODY! $4000 budget! Now I can relate and have some fun! You can build a system that will whip even my PCs ass! GO YOU! Ok, here goes the ZEN search power! www.Zen_of_AMD-SearchPower.com (link is fake...) BTW, you may not need this PC now, but this will last at LEAST 10 years +!!

Motherboard- Tyan S2895UA2NRF Dual Opteron DDR 400 NVIDIA nForce PRO U320 SCSI Audio gigabit LAN with SLi Twin Full 16X PCIe Slots
Price= $ 580.00
http://www.8anet.com/merchant.ihtml?...catid=5&step=4

Processors- AMD Opteron Model 250, 1MB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - OEM
Specifications:
Model: AMD Opteron Model 250
Core: SledgeHammer
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: Integrated into chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1MB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 940
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
PRICE= $689.00 x 2= $1,378
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-455&depa=1


Graphics Cards!!-
eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, TV-Out/Dual DVI, PCI-E, Model "256-P2-N377-AX" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra/400MHz
PixelPipelines: 16
Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1100MHz
BUS: PCI-Express x16
Support SLI(Scalable Link Interface): Yes
Ports: TV-Out (S-Video Out) + 2x DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 2.0
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
RAMDACs: 400MHz
PRICE= $594.00 x 2= $1,188
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-222&depa=1

RAM!-
OCZ Enhanced Latency Series Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) ECC Registered DDR PC-3200
Specifications:
Manufacturer: OCZ
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Registered
Cas Latency: 2-2-3-6
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 72-Bit
Special Features: Specially Engineered and Optimized for the AMD Athlon64 FX platform
Warranty: Lifetime
PRICE= $259.99 x 2=
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-940&depa=1

Ok, you have got about $350 dollars left of the $4,000 to get whatever tower you want and SATA Hardrive

Here is a Good Hardrive!
Maxtor 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, MODEL 6Y160M0, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 160GB
Average Seek Time: 9.3 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: Maxtor Shock Protection and Data Protection Systems
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Packaging: OEM Drive Only
PRICE= $92.45
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-322&depa=1

HE HE HE! This system is a bit too much, I just did this based on the budget you gave! It was fun seeing the power of the system I once had.... Too bad it never worked properly.... OH WELL!
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:14 PM   #14
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no offence but the computer u showed me is more towards gaming and im not into that i need tons of storage thats y i picked the 300gigs and stuff.

but jack22 the reason i picked the sli is because i will only run one vid card now, as it gets older and programs or sites need a bigger vid card to run them i will then buy a 2nd card and install it.but i for sure will add the 6600 to my list. but i think i will do a little overkill so it lasts a long time and i dont need to update things once a year.


also can u guys suggest some good ram? i dont know if mine is good i just randomly picked one. keep in mind no OC'd products
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:42 PM   #15
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no offence but the computer u showed me is more towards gaming and im not into that i need tons of storage thats y i picked the 300gigs and stuff.

but jack22 the reason i picked the sli is because i will only run one vid card now, as it gets older and programs or sites need a bigger vid card to run them i will then buy a 2nd card and install it.but i for sure will add the 6600 to my list. but i think i will do a little overkill so it lasts a long time and i dont need to update things once a year.


also can u guys suggest some good ram? i dont know if mine is good i just randomly picked one. keep in mind no OC'd products

Ummm.... did you notice I said I did it according to your budget? LMAO!! I really wasn't doing that for you to get. Here, this is a system that you should get, and it has MORE then enough storage space for you!

CPU- AMD Athlon64 Socket939 4000+ with 1MB L2 Cache @ 2.4GHz
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-493&depa=1

Graphics Card (Provided You are only really getting one)
ATi Radeon x850XT PE!!!
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-473&depa=1

Motherboard- You don't need SLi for what you are doing, so I recommend you get this PCI Express Motherboard. It the BEST motherboard in the world currently, and th uGuru can overclock to ENORMOUS levels.
Abit FATALITY! AN8 nForce4 Athlon 64(FX) Skt939 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN, RAID/Serial ATA Retail
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=240159

RAM- You wanted the best, well here you go!!
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ
Just remember to buy two of these kits for a total of 2GBs.
Now, since you don't want to overclock, then this is the NEXT BEST RAM in the WORLD, so get this if you DON'T WANT THE BEST.
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ

HardDrives!
Get two of these and put them as your boot drives in RAID 0.
Western Digital 10,000 RPM SATA HDDs with 8MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-366&depa=1

and then two of these drives in RAID 1 for MASS STORAGE and BACKUP on the side.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-363&depa=1
REMEMBER, two of each type of drive. You will have a GRANDTOTAL of 747GBs of storage, which should last FOREVER.
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Old 02-16-2005, 05:59 PM   #16
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well the hard drives im all ready 100% sure im getting is the ones ive listed. but the ram u selected y must i get 2 gigs? does it run really shitty with only one gig? for 6XX dollars for that cpu i might as well get one from zipzoomfly (fx55) for 880. but thanks is there any other places with good rep that sells products? cuz after just looking at zzf i dont think newegg will get my 1k for a cpu o yea that vid card is way to much and way over killing for wat i need. im looking for cheap ones that will work for a sli mobo. but i dont know if that mobo will take any mobos. will it? im tring to keep the vid card price down all i know i want it 256mb the rest of the stuff i have no idea wtf that means. thanks guys srry if im pissing ppl off or annoying but my comps dieing i need a new one badly.
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:03 PM   #17
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You just do't need an FX-55. Go look at benches. You really don't need it for wht you are doing.
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:06 PM   #18
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srry i know this is kinda a double post but were can i look at benches? like i said <NOOB here lol
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Ok benches are at tomshardware.com but if you are saying your a nood,imho, i don't think you deserve the 1000 cpu nor do you need it, just my opinion. Like if you were gaming then you might need it but not for what your doing.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:19 PM   #20
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ok after looking at benchmarks i think im going with the 4000+/fx-53. ok new issue at hand cooling how should i go about this? i hear water then heatsink style which should be used for that cpu?
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