Go Back   Computer Forums > General Computing > Hardware
Click Here to Login
Join Computer forums Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-16-2005, 03:15 PM   #1
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Unhappy Noob Building a computer needs help

Ok hi everyone im Lou i just joined today looking for advice/help. I'm going to attempt building my own computer coming up here soon. But i dont know what I should get as far as parts go. AMD or Intel? is the biggest ? i have. im not really a gamer but i do watch alot of movies, normally have alot of programs running at once. So wat should i get Amd 64bit FX-55 or the Intel 3.46ghz 1066fsb chip? thanks ill give more info once i have this picked thanks.
-Lou
__________________

__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:17 PM   #2
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

o yea also i wont be over clocking so dont judge this by saying if u over clock cuz i wont do that
__________________

__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:23 PM   #3
In Runtime
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 110
Default

The question you have to ask yourself is how much do you want to spend, it is performence vs price
__________________
TOWT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:28 PM   #4
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

well im looking for good performance. ive looked only at newegg.com and had my friends help me build a comp and the total is always 3800-4000 dollars so thats were im looking to spending. but that must include everything i want. right now im on newegg getting a wish list in order so i can show u guys what im looking at getting. im setting it up for amd64 this time.
__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:28 PM   #5
aCb
In Runtime
 
aCb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 319
Default

woudlnt suggest getting a 1,000$ CPU for your first build.
__________________
INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6420
ASUS P5N-E SLI nVIDIA nFORCE 650 SLI
CRUCIAL BALLISTIX 2GB 667MHZ 3-3-3-12
RADEON X1950 PRO
aCb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:29 PM   #6
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

o wat does contrast mean on the lcd flat panels? is higher better?
__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:35 PM   #7
Fully Optimized
 
jack22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

OK. This is your first build i see. DOn't spend mucho money on your first build. You could break a pin on your cpu and do anything and then you are in the hole. You need to do some research because like you dont need the fx-55, you can OC a lower chip. I know you said you dont OC but it would save you a couple hundreds. Go to tomshardware and look at benches. I just agree the acb, this being your first build, dont go all out. Do you yourself know what you need? And obviously the better contrast the better picture. I don't want to seem ma utwheneuidfor the ittme hy usuly do thsh lo tbefouying parts as that is the most expensive and important part. Also check zipzoomfly.com
__________________
Because of popular demand, the great almighty sig has been changed.



............cxxxxxxc|)::::::::::::> ................
jack22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:41 PM   #8
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

well about being building my own, im only doing certain things. my friend is going to set the chip n the raid. but the rest i know how to do from taking apart my comp about once a week. hes built a new computer every 3 months and hes all into that oc and stuff. but ive heard things like shortens the life of a cpu. so i dont want to do that being my computers on nearly 24hours a day for a week or so. but next post will have wat im looking at. also is there any suggestions on a video card?
__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:49 PM   #9
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

http://secure.newegg.com/app/WishLis...IEW&ID=1324123 thats the wish list minus video card if u can view it
__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 03:58 PM   #10
Fully Optimized
 
jack22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

No double post and why do you need a 4000$ computer for playing dvd's and have programs open. Having programs open you will be fine with a gig or two but only two if you do huge programs. To watch dvd's you don't need a great gfx card either. You don't seem like you'd be doing enough for a 4000$ pc. A 4000$ pc built on the market would be alomost like 5000$. You don't need that type of pc.
__________________
Because of popular demand, the great almighty sig has been changed.



............cxxxxxxc|)::::::::::::> ................
jack22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 04:10 PM   #11
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

well i dont watch dvd's on my computer now its to old and crappy (p2 400mhz 256mb ram). but the movies i deal with are for www.3si.org and www.supraforums.com i do all the ftp stuff and edit movies and making them constantly. but i only picked a gig of ram i dont think 2 would be needed. but im not looking to keep this computer for only a year im looking for atleast 5yrs+ ive had this one im on now since 98 and works good but just running hard for what i do. my friend says with a 6600 i should have more then enough for a video card. so thats wat i was looking at to get.also ive looked at dell for them to build a PC for me and it came out over 5k and i have less then what i have listed. also this really doesnt have to be a 4k PC cuz i have a monitor,keyboard,mouse,speakers,webcam,mic but they are also dated and getting iffy on working. so that knocks the price down almost 1100 bucks so its more like 2900. then if i wanted less i could lose 1 raptor and 1 300gig so thats 2600 then. but since u all suggest a different CPU wat do u think i should get? also for "SLI" mobo can u put only 1 vid card or 2 crapper ones in there and it be ok? or does it need some special cards. srry for the long post but its ?'s i have
__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 04:17 PM   #12
Fully Optimized
 
jack22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

You don't need sli so don't worry about it, it is only for gamers. Yea a 6600 would be fine but since you have the money just get a leadtech 6800GT. It will last you awhile and cools very well. I don't want to stop you from getting what you want. A good cpu would be the Athlon 64 3500+ Winchester core. Deicide if you are going pci express or agp. Just get what you want but just make sure it just isnt overkill.
__________________
Because of popular demand, the great almighty sig has been changed.



............cxxxxxxc|)::::::::::::> ................
jack22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 05:06 PM   #13
BSOD
 
DarkBlade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,355
Send a message via MSN to DarkBlade
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

[color=black]OOOH! GOODY! $4000 budget! Now I can relate and have some fun! You can build a system that will whip even my PCs ass! GO YOU! Ok, here goes the ZEN search power! www.Zen_of_AMD-SearchPower.com (link is fake...) BTW, you may not need this PC now, but this will last at LEAST 10 years +!!

Motherboard- Tyan S2895UA2NRF Dual Opteron DDR 400 NVIDIA nForce PRO U320 SCSI Audio gigabit LAN with SLi Twin Full 16X PCIe Slots
Price= $ 580.00
http://www.8anet.com/merchant.ihtml?...catid=5&step=4

Processors- AMD Opteron Model 250, 1MB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor - OEM
Specifications:
Model: AMD Opteron Model 250
Core: SledgeHammer
Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
FSB: Integrated into chip
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/1MB
Voltage: 1.5V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket 940
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
PRICE= $689.00 x 2= $1,378
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-455&depa=1


Graphics Cards!!-
eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, TV-Out/Dual DVI, PCI-E, Model "256-P2-N377-AX" -RETAIL
Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra/400MHz
PixelPipelines: 16
Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1100MHz
BUS: PCI-Express x16
Support SLI(Scalable Link Interface): Yes
Ports: TV-Out (S-Video Out) + 2x DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 2.0
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
RAMDACs: 400MHz
PRICE= $594.00 x 2= $1,188
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-222&depa=1

RAM!-
OCZ Enhanced Latency Series Dual Channel Kit 184 Pin 1GB(512MBx2) ECC Registered DDR PC-3200
Specifications:
Manufacturer: OCZ
Speed: DDR400(PC3200)
Type: 184 Pin DDR SDRAM
Error Checking: ECC
Registered/Unbuffered: Registered
Cas Latency: 2-2-3-6
Support Voltage: 2.6V
Bandwidth: 3.2GB/s
Organization: two 64M x 72-Bit
Special Features: Specially Engineered and Optimized for the AMD Athlon64 FX platform
Warranty: Lifetime
PRICE= $259.99 x 2=
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...146-940&depa=1

Ok, you have got about $350 dollars left of the $4,000 to get whatever tower you want and SATA Hardrive

Here is a Good Hardrive!
Maxtor 160GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, MODEL 6Y160M0, OEM Drive Only
Specifications:
Capacity: 160GB
Average Seek Time: 9.3 ms
Buffer: 8MB
Rotational Speed: 7200 RPM
Interface: Serial ATA
Features: Maxtor Shock Protection and Data Protection Systems
Manufacturer Warranty: 3 years
Packaging: OEM Drive Only
PRICE= $92.45
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-322&depa=1

HE HE HE! This system is a bit too much, I just did this based on the budget you gave! It was fun seeing the power of the system I once had.... Too bad it never worked properly.... OH WELL!
__________________
DarkBlade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 05:14 PM   #14
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

no offence but the computer u showed me is more towards gaming and im not into that i need tons of storage thats y i picked the 300gigs and stuff.

but jack22 the reason i picked the sli is because i will only run one vid card now, as it gets older and programs or sites need a bigger vid card to run them i will then buy a 2nd card and install it.but i for sure will add the 6600 to my list. but i think i will do a little overkill so it lasts a long time and i dont need to update things once a year.


also can u guys suggest some good ram? i dont know if mine is good i just randomly picked one. keep in mind no OC'd products
__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 05:42 PM   #15
BSOD
 
DarkBlade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,355
Send a message via MSN to DarkBlade
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekPower
no offence but the computer u showed me is more towards gaming and im not into that i need tons of storage thats y i picked the 300gigs and stuff.

but jack22 the reason i picked the sli is because i will only run one vid card now, as it gets older and programs or sites need a bigger vid card to run them i will then buy a 2nd card and install it.but i for sure will add the 6600 to my list. but i think i will do a little overkill so it lasts a long time and i dont need to update things once a year.


also can u guys suggest some good ram? i dont know if mine is good i just randomly picked one. keep in mind no OC'd products

Ummm.... did you notice I said I did it according to your budget? LMAO!! I really wasn't doing that for you to get. Here, this is a system that you should get, and it has MORE then enough storage space for you!

CPU- AMD Athlon64 Socket939 4000+ with 1MB L2 Cache @ 2.4GHz
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-493&depa=1

Graphics Card (Provided You are only really getting one)
ATi Radeon x850XT PE!!!
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-473&depa=1

Motherboard- You don't need SLi for what you are doing, so I recommend you get this PCI Express Motherboard. It the BEST motherboard in the world currently, and th uGuru can overclock to ENORMOUS levels.
Abit FATALITY! AN8 nForce4 Athlon 64(FX) Skt939 DDR ATX Motherboard w/Audio, Gigabit LAN, RAID/Serial ATA Retail
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=240159

RAM- You wanted the best, well here you go!!
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ
Just remember to buy two of these kits for a total of 2GBs.
Now, since you don't want to overclock, then this is the NEXT BEST RAM in the WORLD, so get this if you DON'T WANT THE BEST.
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch...Unbuffered_OCZ

HardDrives!
Get two of these and put them as your boot drives in RAID 0.
Western Digital 10,000 RPM SATA HDDs with 8MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-366&depa=1

and then two of these drives in RAID 1 for MASS STORAGE and BACKUP on the side.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-363&depa=1
REMEMBER, two of each type of drive. You will have a GRANDTOTAL of 747GBs of storage, which should last FOREVER.
__________________
DarkBlade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 05:59 PM   #16
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

well the hard drives im all ready 100% sure im getting is the ones ive listed. but the ram u selected y must i get 2 gigs? does it run really shitty with only one gig? for 6XX dollars for that cpu i might as well get one from zipzoomfly (fx55) for 880. but thanks is there any other places with good rep that sells products? cuz after just looking at zzf i dont think newegg will get my 1k for a cpu o yea that vid card is way to much and way over killing for wat i need. im looking for cheap ones that will work for a sli mobo. but i dont know if that mobo will take any mobos. will it? im tring to keep the vid card price down all i know i want it 256mb the rest of the stuff i have no idea wtf that means. thanks guys srry if im pissing ppl off or annoying but my comps dieing i need a new one badly.
__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 06:03 PM   #17
Fully Optimized
 
jack22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

You just do't need an FX-55. Go look at benches. You really don't need it for wht you are doing.
__________________
Because of popular demand, the great almighty sig has been changed.



............cxxxxxxc|)::::::::::::> ................
jack22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 06:06 PM   #18
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

srry i know this is kinda a double post but were can i look at benches? like i said <NOOB here lol
__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 06:09 PM   #19
Fully Optimized
 
jack22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,124
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

Ok benches are at tomshardware.com but if you are saying your a nood,imho, i don't think you deserve the 1000 cpu nor do you need it, just my opinion. Like if you were gaming then you might need it but not for what your doing.
__________________
Because of popular demand, the great almighty sig has been changed.



............cxxxxxxc|)::::::::::::> ................
jack22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2005, 07:19 PM   #20
Solid State Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 18
Default Re: Noob Building a computer needs help

ok after looking at benchmarks i think im going with the 4000+/fx-53. ok new issue at hand cooling how should i go about this? i hear water then heatsink style which should be used for that cpu?
__________________

__________________
GreekPower is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
×