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Old 01-09-2005, 04:09 PM   #1
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What video card should i get for my new system. mainly going to be playing counterstrike source though. Im thinkin the 6600 gt , the normal 6800, or the 9800 pro. Pretty sure im going to be going with an agp mobo unless the pci express SLI mobo is better with only 1 card.
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:21 PM   #2
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How about this one? That's what I'll be ordering in a couple of weeks when I get some money in:

MSI nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT Video Card, 128MB DDR3, 128-Bit, DVI/TV-Out, PCI-Express
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-147&depa=1

It comes with tons of software and specwise, it's not bad for the price.
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Old 01-09-2005, 08:33 PM   #3
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he said he was going to go with agp not pci-e. Might want to choose a 6600GT AGP. the 6800 is better than the 6600GT though.
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Old 01-09-2005, 08:40 PM   #4
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I mean this one for the AGP:

MSI nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT Video Card, 128MB GDDR3, 128-Bit, DVI/VIVO, AGP 8X
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-150&depa=1

But if you do decide on PCIe, the other one here is good too.

MSI nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT Video Card, 128MB GDDR3, 128-Bit, DVI/VIVO, AGP 8X
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-150&depa=1
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he said he was going to go with agp not pci-e. Might want to choose a 6600GT AGP. the 6800 is better than the 6600GT though.

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eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Video Card, 128MB GDDR, 256-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "128-A8-N343-AX" -RETAIL


- Specifications -

Chipset/Core Speed: nVIDIA GeForce 6800/325MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB DDR/700MHz
BUS: AGP 4X/8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out(S-Video) + DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9.0c, OpenGL 1.5
Cable/Accessories: Manual, DVI to VGA Adapter, 2 Cables
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz

MSI nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT Video Card, 128MB GDDR3, 128-Bit, DVI/VIVO, AGP 8X, Model "NX6600GT-VTD128" -RETAIL

Specifications:
Chipset/Core Speed: nVIDIA GeForce 6600GT/500MHz
Memory/Effective Speed: 128MB GDDR3/1000MHz
BUS: AGP 8X
Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + VIVO + DVI
Support 3D API: DirectX 9(Shader Model 3.0), OpenGL 1.5
Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
RAMDACs: 400MHz
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Old 01-09-2005, 09:19 PM   #6
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Sorry, my bad. Yeah, the MSI one looks good for the AGP. It's higher priced than the PCIe though, so that's a little strange. I would think the AGP would be cheaper being an older technology.

I tried posting the link previously but got mixed up in my windows. I've got like 20 Newegg windows open (trying to view all the parts I plan on getting) and I'm trying to find which is what. I've got like 2 MSI video cards, one AGP and one PCIe and misposted the wrong link. I wish I can go back and delete some of the mispost, but can't.
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yes definatly going agp now my question is would the
6800 be better then the 6600 gt?
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can someone show me the best 6800 I can get for around 250$ or the best card I can get for around 250$. It must be agp since I just ordered my mobo/procesor.
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go with the 6600gt by msi the agp model, it has faster ram speeds than the 6800Gt and the mem speeds are faster too, look at my previous post, the new egg link is rite here

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-150&depa=1
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lol...the 6800 is 256bit compared to the 128bit by the 6600Gt. It has been proven that core and mem speeds dont mean everything. If it is, the how can AMD keep up with Intel?
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Why not buy the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro with 256 Meg of DDR RAM and 8X AGP. Its' fast, check pcpitshop or download the free trialware SiSoft Sandra from www.zdnet.com and check what the card bench mark is.
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FSB is how it keeps up with intel, and most ppl dun even need256 mb, plus the 6600gt cost less and comes with craploads more, and i still like the fact that the speeds are faster
a 2.ghz core speed with a fsb of 1600 is basically like a 4ghz intell with 800fsb the way i see it
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Definitly go for the 6800. Its has 12 pixel pipelines instead of the 8 on the 9800 and 6600gt. Even with 256mb on the 9800, it still can't match it on the latest games.
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ok so which card
6800 LE or 6800
6600 GT
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trance u don't know anything about video cards.

I'm sorry that you caught me on one of my more cranky days. If your on a forum, and you obviously dont' know what you're talking about, keep your mouth shut. I'm sick and tired of misinformation on these forums.

And the 6800 has 256-bit, not 256 memory. The 6600GT has 128-bit interface. Thus a smaller amount of bandwidth.

This cripples the card and its high speeds. Plus, add to the fact:

6800
12 pixel pipelines
5 vertex shaders

6600GT
8 pixel pipelines
3 vertex shaders

oh yeah, and trance, your equation with 800fsb P4 4.0ghz processor = a amd64 3000+ is absolutely wrong.

yet again, don't give false information.
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would the BFG geforce 6800 OC be the best card im going to get for the money?
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i would buy it anyway...if it does everything u want it to why go higher?
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Umm, you are all argueing.. Cut it out! Look, the 6600GT is better then the 6800 (non GT), since it has higher RAMDAC speeds, and if he is going PCI Express (which hopefully he is since he can do SLi....) then you can do dual PCIe 6600GTs for less then $400.... 6800 is slow... Friend has one, and my sister has 6600GT with almost the same setup, and she beat him in 3Dmark03 by 3,000!!!! Now, that means something. Honestly, get the 6600GT card. Or, better yet, fork out a bit more for the AGP 6800GT. I will provide a link below for a well priced one. GL, and decide well.
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BTW, to put to rest all arguements on bitbandwidths, the 6600Gt is 256bit Core, 128 bit GDDR3 Memory base, so it won't "cripple" at high speeds...... The AMD Processors are 64bit, do they "cripple" at high speeds. GPUs are far ahead of processors in bit rate... WTF would it be PCI Express for??? LMAO!! Think before you type pls... Anywho, get the 6800GT if you can afford it.. If not, the 6600Gt is the best choice by far!

BTW, ATi better widen their markets, or they will die! nVidia is pwning in PDAs, PCs, CellPhones, and Portable MP4 players...
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Sry for third post, but WTF.. I was just curious were people start making opinions of cards without seeing them in action. Going off numbers alone is bullcrap, and you all know it!! Go by personal experience only!
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