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Old 12-22-2009, 04:51 PM   #1
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Hi all! I need to replace a motherboard but am pretty new to doing so. I'm not even sure if I can find one compatible still out there. It is from a HP Pavilion 513N. It is my mother's computer and she really doesn't use it much other than for browsing. The board doesn't really say much on it. The motherboard only had P4G533-LA marked on it and a search turned this up: P4G533-LA 845GL Chipset 400MHz Front Side Bus 256MB PC2100 DDR Memory. Can anyone lead me in a direction to find a replacement motherboard? I just don't think it is worth her sinking money into a new computer if she doesn't have to. Any recommendations are greatly appreciated!

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Old 12-22-2009, 07:37 PM   #2
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You'll probably have to go through HP to get a replacement motherboard.
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Old 12-22-2009, 10:43 PM   #3
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You'll pay incredibly high prices to buy the same motherboard through a random/never heard of reseller or distributor for OEM builders (HP, Dell, etc).

It's a socket 478, with an 845G chipset. Supporting PC-2100 (DDR266) RAM.

The only socket 478 you can purchase new is from TigerDirect.com and NewEgg.com

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0828&CatId=182

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138079

Through both options, you are way overpaying. You might be able to pick up a new 775 ITX build for less than it would cost you to buy that BIOSTAR plus the new RAM it would require.

EDIT: Ok, not exactly. But the way I see it: If you're buying a new board, you might as well go fresh. Rather than spend money on older technology. Then again, you may be budget limited. I'm just throwing out some options.
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Old 12-23-2009, 07:45 PM   #4
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Thanks for all your help! I think I will just talk her into updating to a new computer. She doesn't need anything fancy since she doesn't do much.

Now, I'm planning on building one myself and would really appreciate ANY advice you guys can give me. I have done some minor stuff like replacing motherboards, installing ram, video cards, sound cards, dvd burners, etc. However, I have never done anything quite as extensive as building my own PC. So, if there is any forum you guys recommend to help me through this process, I would greatly appreciate it. Do you think it would be too hard for me to do considering my limited experience?

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You could just bye a new comp or build a new one too.
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We are more than willing to help . It's actually a much more simple process or put it together. The harder part is designing the build. But we'll be able to walk you through that.

Now you say all she does is internet browse and email?
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Old 12-24-2009, 08:09 AM   #7
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Yep that's about it and I just found out my nephew went out and bought her one.

However, I am talking about building one for me. My computer was custom built by a friend many years ago. I think it has held up better than any computer any of my family has purchased over the years. I have made my upgrades myself over the years. I have been thinking about trying to build a new one on my own but wasn't sure if I could do it without screwing something up and ruining parts, etc. I stumbled onto this site when trying to find that motherboard replacement and started reading how you guys have seemed to help others custom build their own. That got me thinking again about maybe giving it a shot.

I mainly use my computer for many things. I would say I'm looking for an 'all-in-one' kind of computer. I watch videos, listen to music, complete some work using excel and word, and would like to get back in to gaming. I used to play online years ago but then all the updates for games exceeded the minimum requirements on my set up so I gave them up telling myself I would eventually build a new one since upgrading components were obsolete.

I hope that gives you some ideas on what I'm looking for. If there are any other questions you may have to help me get started, fire away!
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What's your budget? Do you need a new keyboard, mouse, monitor, operating system?

If you don't need a new monitor, what size do you have?

What kind of gaming do you do and how high do you normally like the settings in game?
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Old 12-24-2009, 06:46 PM   #9
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I would need a new monitor and operating system. As far as gaming I think my last days of gaming were the Counter Strike days. So, it would be like learning all over again. Wouldn't have to be the best of the best as far as gaming goes, but something decent that could potentially be upgraded if needed. As far as a budget goes, I would like to keep it to between $1,000 and $1,500 if that's possible.
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1000 is a great budget to work with :O. Hell you can go I7 with that kind of budget.

I'll work up a design tonight and I'm sure a few other members will chip in with a really good build.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:47 PM   #11
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That sounds AWESOME!!! Grant, you sure I can put this thing together and get it up and running without something smoking and burning up? (haha) I have never started up an operating system with a new build on my own. An old buddy of mine used to walk me through stuff step-by-step. I'm really excited about the challenge though. I haven't had a new system for YEARS!!!
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This is about the most kick ass system you can get your hands on these days
Note that I don't really think this is a necessity at all, but I'm going to post multiple builds. This is at the top of the spectrum. I7 on the 1366 platform with reputable names and the latest graphics techologies available - DX11 support.

Intel Core I7 920
Evga X58 SLI LE
GSkill (3x2) DDR3 Triple Channel PC3-12800
Asus 5870 1GB
Corsair TX750
SeaGate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB/16MB
CoolerMaster HAF932

I did not include an operating system.

This is definitely for someone who wants to play all games minus games like GTAIV or Crysis on absolutely max and get 50+ frames on a 25 inch or greater monitor.

The only way to one-up a rig like this is the 5970, cross-fired 5870's and solid state drives. This is about top of the line for today.
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1000 is a great budget to work with :O. Hell you can go I7 with that kind of budget.

I'll work up a design tonight and I'm sure a few other members will chip in with a really good build.
Is it sad that we are both on CF on Christmas Eve? Yes.

Is it awesome at the same time...?

...your darn right it is.

Looks like a good build Grant.
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It's incredibly high priced. I'm trying to find a good I5 build for under a G with an OS.
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:35 PM   #15
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Well, you certainly have taken me right to that $1,500. What would you recommend for an OS? You sure this won't be hard to set up for a newb like me? I hate to drop the $ and then blow something up and waste the cash. I gotta tell ya G, you don't mess around when someone asks for advice on a build!!! That was FAST! I appreciate it especially on Christmas eve! haha
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Hey man, no problem. I love being here to help and learn. Plus I'm really bored right now :S

It's really easy to build a system. I mean once you see the parts, you'll be a bit intimidated, but it's all plug and play. You really can't blow it up these days. Too many built-in safety features. Plus we can walk you through it all.

Though, I think the first build I posted is completely overkill. So I'm looking between Core2Quad and I5 builds right now which are still very high performance platforms. I7 is at the top of the spectrum because it is a dual threaded quad core (EIGHT! processing threads) Not a lot of games are taking advantage of that, and with the way things are going, I don't know if they will for a little bit. (most haven't even gotten to thread for quad cores yet :O)

I sort of got where I wanted with this build. Still has at least a Quad, with the latest architecture and L3 cache. (though I still side with L2 being better as it's closer to the thread). This also still features a DX11 card. The board I chose has CrossFire and supports DDR3 up to 2GHz. The RAM is 1333 which is a plenty fine speed for the processor.

I am kind of leaving the HDD size and case selection open. I don't know how large of an HDD you need, but I chose 500GB as that is the sweet spot for price per GB. And the Case is more of a visual preference per person. You can post links to cases and ask us if they look decent, but I normally leave case choices to the purchaser as that is what you have to look at, so you might as well like it . But also do factor in the cooling abilities and cable management the case has to offer. The HAF932 has the best of both worlds and looks pretty sporty in my opinion, but it may not suit your needs. So have a look around here and see what you like. Note that the case size must be "MID-TOWER" or "FULL-TOWER".

Intel Core i5 750
Evga P55 CF LE
GSkill RipJaws (2x2) DDR3 Dual Channel PC3-10666
XFX HD5770 1GB DDR5
Corsair TX750
SeaGate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB/16MB
CoolerMaster HAF932

It totals to 937.93 before tax (if applicable) and shipping.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:02 PM   #17
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Well, if you think a step down is still a good build and it saves me a few more bucks, then maybe that's the better way to go? I would say my apprehensions are getting the cpu on the board correctly and then getting the OS to work properly. Let me know what your second build recommendations are. By the way, I'm bored too. haha
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As for the operating system:
Windows Se7en Home Premium 64-bit

Functional, new, cheap.
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:11 PM   #19
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I'm still running XP. You have 7 yet or are you still waiting to hear more on it?
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I don't own Se7en. Plenty of our members have used the RC, beta, and own full versions. They all say they are very impressed. I am sticking XP out until Nvidia releases their DX11 cards and some more DX11 games hit the market.
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